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Offline Chilli

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WWI Arena Attractions
« on: November 20, 2010, 02:39:23 PM »
After viewing a tribute film for WWI pilots, it gave me two ideas that I need help in trying to formulate for wishlist.

First, in WWI arena hide enemy bases instead of showing them on map (similar to the way task groups are not visible to enemy)

  • Experiment with reconnaissance aspect of WWI 
  • Some great terrain makers around
  • Make the terrain be the guide to target instead of the clipboard map that we are so comfortable with 
  • No ground vehicle base capture component so *forests could actually be solid graphic objects (more like elevations) along roadsides, rivers, mountains, other visual clues, etc.

Second, give the WWI dweeb something to do in an almost empty arena. 

  • Give him the (yes, you guessed correctly) Zeppelin!
  • There are no real strategic targets to hit besides radar and ack
  • Give them one that is just plain fun to watch go down in a blaze.

* Dense forests will be raised bumpy terrain bordered by tree clutter on all sides.  The forest canopy could blend well with high resolution detailed graphic elevated terrains, as opposed to the sprinkle of tree clutter now used in WW2 arenas where ground vehicles are given free reign.

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Re: WWI Arena Attractions
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2010, 09:52:35 AM »
+1
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Re: WWI Arena Attractions
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2010, 11:07:30 AM »
I like the idea of dense forests but other than that, no. Why would you hide the enemy bases and get rid of radar? When there's only a few people on, how would it be fun searching for fields and planes at only 100 mph?
And I'm not sure what you mean by "an almost empty arena." All it takes is 1 other player on to have a good time. And when there's more than 10 people in it's like a jungle in there. But I assume you're talking about giving strategic things for pilots to do when no one else is on? I've flown WW1 since it came out but as soon as they add bombers, things to blow up, base taking, etc., I'm out of there.

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Re: WWI Arena Attractions
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2010, 01:50:46 PM »
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Re: WWI Arena Attractions
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2010, 01:53:15 PM »
I've flown WW1 since it came out but as soon as they add bombers, things to blow up, base taking, etc., I'm out of there.

If they would put things in that would lead bigger diversity in fights, I'm back in.
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Re: WWI Arena Attractions
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2010, 02:13:51 PM »
If they would put things in that would lead bigger diversity in fights, I'm back in.

+1

When I voted for a WWI arena, I voted for a WWI arena.  Not a 4 player stratless H2H server.
I want to feel like there is the variety and depth of game play that is provided to the WWII arena participants.
I want the WWI arena to be taken seriously.
I continue to watch for HTC's further development with great anticipation.  I got $15 burning a hole in my pocket.

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Re: WWI Arena Attractions
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2010, 02:34:45 PM »
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Re: WWI Arena Attractions
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2010, 03:30:49 PM »
I'm out of there.
This is life.  A larger more important reality is one where losing a single player and adding ten more in his place simply makes sense.
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Re: WWI Arena Attractions
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2010, 03:55:30 PM »
This is life.  A larger more important reality is one where losing a single player and adding ten more in his place simply makes sense.


Well, in a perfect world,  there would be a 3 field setup in a corner of the DA like furball lake for WWII, but instead for WWI planes.  
For the 5 guys who want nothing to do with a real arena, they can continue on there as if nothing had changed.

The WWI Arena could then be made into a real WWI MA.

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Re: WWI Arena Attractions
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2010, 04:00:57 PM »
HTC stated they wanted it to be a pure dogfighting arena.  Still a valid concept but with just four planes to "experience" the whole concept has very short legs.

I would think that a WW1 "Main Arena" style approach would be far more entertaining in the long haul.
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Re: WWI Arena Attractions
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2010, 04:20:11 PM »
HTC stated they wanted it to be a pure dogfighting arena.  Still a valid concept but with just four planes to "experience" the whole concept has very short legs.

I would think that a WW1 "Main Arena" style approach would be far more entertaining in the long haul.

Well HTC has started down other approaches in the past (e.g. Night flying, Field capture order, etc) that with the help of player "feedback" they were able to realize needed to be reconsidered.  ;)

With respect, I would assert that merely adding more planes to the one-dimensional gameplay of a dogfight only arena would not materially improve its attractiveness to the larger potential audience.  Keep in mind, the DA furball lake offers almost the entire planeset of the WWII MA available unperked.  Yet, while is has a small following, its popularity is dwarfed by the MA.   It must not be the planeset.  I assert the MA provides a richer gaming experience with a wide variety of task, missions, and GOALS.

Goal-Oriented-Combat is the key to generating that special addictiveness that keeps people up to 4am in the MA.  Otherwise, its just practicing.
  
Once you have that...of course, new planes are always welcomed.  :aok

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Re: WWI Arena Attractions
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2010, 04:30:35 PM »
If you want to capture bases, spend an hour flying a bomber formation to the HQ, diversity, etc, why not just go to the MA?

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Re: WWI Arena Attractions
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2010, 04:35:30 PM »
HTC stated they wanted it to be a pure dogfighting arena.  Still a valid concept but with just four planes to "experience" the whole concept has very short legs.

Especially when one of the four is so overwhelmingly dominating. Last tour or so didn't the Dr.I account for some 75% or more of the kills in WWI Arena? I know the handful of times I've popped my head in there since the initial release, Dr.Is made up about 90% of the planes in the air.

SPAD XIII would really shake things up...


Well, in a perfect world,  there would be a 3 field setup in a corner of the DA like furball lake for WWII, but instead for WWI planes.   
For the 5 guys who want nothing to do with a real arena, they can continue on there as if nothing had changed.


Oh you just KNOW that if they integrated the WWI Furball Lake onto the same map as the regular DA, SOME tool is going to take the time to get an F4U-4 or Tempest in there.
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Re: WWI Arena Attractions
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2010, 04:38:29 PM »
If you want to capture bases, spend an hour flying a bomber formation to the HQ, diversity, etc, why not just go to the MA?

Raven,

For the same reason some people prefer flying WWII prop planes rather than jet sims; They might just prefer the WWI genre.  Just like WWII types prefer propellers over jets.

Within the WWI genre, if there was a full featured WWI MA and a dogfight only WWI arena, I'd certainly be in the WWI MA.

Telling me to go fly in the WWII MA is like telling the propeller-heads to just go fly a jet sim.  ;)

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Re: WWI Arena Attractions
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2010, 04:41:32 PM »
Sorry...browser problems.....
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