Firefly

[Pyro]

It is APCBC.

[waystin2]

It is APCBC.

You rock Pyro, thank you Sir!

 

Way

[SmokinLoon]

It is APCBC.

Thanks for clarifying.  

For those who do not have viable sources to reference, the "armor-piercing capped ballistic cap" or APCBC, was the most common AP round used by the Firefly (according to one source anyways).  

*new thread started in the WISH forums*  

[Big Rat]

Well, statistics can be deceiving, as the state for which they apply is often not specified.  However, from the book "Sherman Firefly", by Hayward it specifies penetration of homogeneous armor at 30 degrees as follows ("...based on primary data from PRO documents listed in the bibliography...:
17pdr          APC          111mm at 1000m and 87mm at 2000m
17pdr          APCBC       124mm at 1000m and 108mm at 2000m
17pdr          APDS        172mm at 1000m and 153mm at 2000m
Panther       APCBC       100(111)mm at 1000m and 89mm at 2000m
Tiger I         APCBC       102(100)mm at 1000m and 86(84)mm at 2000m
Sherman 76  APC          89mm at 1000m and 74mm at 2000m

Perhaps HTC has provided APC ammo for our Firefly. 

My German tank source "encyclopedia of german tanks of WW2" showed slightly different penetration values for your Panther and Tiger1 APCBC values at 30 degrees, numbers in (  ).  Not that it makes a huge difference in this discussion, just thought the L70 looked a bit low at 1k so checked my sources.  I agree that the 17pdr should be more deadly then it is in this game.

 
BigRat

[SmokinLoon]

My German tank source "encyclopedia of german tanks of WW2" showed slightly different penetration values for your Panther and Tiger1 APCBC values at 30 degrees, numbers in (  ).  Not that it makes a huge difference in this discussion, just thought the L70 looked a bit low at 1k so checked my sources.  I agree that the 17pdr should be more deadly then it is in this game.

 
BigRat

Remember that the armor penetration stats for AH are for the 0 degree armor.  The stats are going to be different for 30 degrees.  Pyro kindly pointed that out in a different thread.