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Offline fbWldcat

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Re: the mighty mammoth shall walk the earth again!
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2011, 08:05:05 PM »
You have READ Jurassic Park I presume? Watching the movie doesn't count. If you have read it, then I suppose you know where I'm going with this. Your childhood dream (current dream?) will never come to pass.
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Re: the mighty mammoth shall walk the earth again!
« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2011, 08:06:53 PM »
Quote from: fbWldcat on January 18, 2011, 08:05:05 PM
You have READ Jurassic Park I presume? Watching the movie doesn't count. If you have read it, then I suppose you know where I'm going with this. Your childhood dream (current dream?) will never come to pass.
ive read some of jurrasic park and all of the lost world.
jurrasic park was written in the 80s, 30yrs ago.
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Re: the mighty mammoth shall walk the earth again!
« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2011, 08:11:38 PM »
Quote from: Tyrannis on January 18, 2011, 02:06:06 PM
this type of attitude is why they went extinct in the first place.
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Re: the mighty mammoth shall walk the earth again!
« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2011, 08:13:37 PM »
Quote from: Slash27 on January 18, 2011, 08:11:38 PM
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incase you dont know, mammoths were hunting to extinction by humans. thats why i said what i said. :rolleyes:
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Re: the mighty mammoth shall walk the earth again!
« Reply #49 on: January 18, 2011, 09:25:45 PM »
Quote from: Tyrannis on January 18, 2011, 08:13:37 PM
incase you dont know, mammoths were hunting to extinction by humans. thats why i said what i said. :rolleyes:

Yes, but you obviously don't grasp the current-day standards for hunting. We aren't Neanderthals and we don't hunt purely for survival or with little wooden sticks and pointy rocks.

Quote from: Tyrannis on January 18, 2011, 08:06:53 PM
ive read some of jurrasic park and all of the lost world.
jurrasic park was written in the 80s, 30yrs ago.

It has a Universal Theme, you cannot play God and expect to win 100% of the time.
Let's bring back a microbe from the Late Cretaceous Period and experiment with it. Oops, what's that you say? The microbe got loose? It is spread by air and is highly infectious? It is killing 9/10 of the people it comes into contact with? Well darn! I sure hate that I played God.

You can't always expect to win. That's all I'm saying.
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Re: the mighty mammoth shall walk the earth again!
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2011, 09:31:01 PM »
Quote from: Slash27 on January 18, 2011, 08:11:38 PM
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Just let it go, Slash.  I had the same reaction.  :cheers:
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Re: the mighty mammoth shall walk the earth again!
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2011, 09:48:54 PM »
Quote from: Plazus on January 18, 2011, 08:04:39 PM
No I didn't! What is that movie you speak of?

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Re: the mighty mammoth shall walk the earth again!
« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2011, 10:09:28 PM »
Quote from: oakranger on January 18, 2011, 02:56:16 PM
This could bring a negative impact to the ecosystem and the animal.  Reintroducing a +5,000 year old extinct animal may not survived with today climate, let alone, fighting off the diseases that it's body is not immune too.  Another issue that can be a problem is the vegetation to support it.  Dose it forage on C3 or C4 plants? What is the vegetation composed as far as nutrient, minerals, and will today vegetation have any fungus/chemical that can do more harm the the mammoth?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleistocene_Park

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Re: the mighty mammoth shall walk the earth again!
« Reply #53 on: January 18, 2011, 10:43:25 PM »
Quote from: fbWldcat on January 18, 2011, 09:25:45 PM
Yes, but you obviously don't grasp the current-day standards for hunting. We aren't Neanderthals and we don't hunt purely for survival or with little wooden sticks and pointy rocks.

It has a Universal Theme, you cannot play God and expect to win 100% of the time.
Let's bring back a microbe from the Late Cretaceous Period and experiment with it. Oops, what's that you say? The microbe got loose? It is spread by air and is highly infectious? It is killing 9/10 of the people it comes into contact with? Well darn! I sure hate that I played God.

You can't always expect to win. That's all I'm saying.

i know we arent neanderthals, i just ment that it seems morally cruel to bring back a creature we had allready hunted to extinction, just so we can add insult to injury by hunting it even more.

and yes, i grasp the concept of "playing god". but who knows? maybe we could pull it off, maybe we cant. but isent that pretty much how science has worked in the past?
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Re: the mighty mammoth shall walk the earth again!
« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2011, 10:53:05 PM »
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Re: the mighty mammoth shall walk the earth again!
« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2011, 03:08:32 AM »
Quote from: Slash27 on January 18, 2011, 08:11:38 PM
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Don't, just don't. Back away and stop reading his posts. Your IQ drops per letter read.
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Re: the mighty mammoth shall walk the earth again!
« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2011, 10:19:42 AM »
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Re: the mighty mammoth shall walk the earth again!
« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2011, 10:27:07 AM »
Quote from: oakranger on January 19, 2011, 10:19:42 AM
OK, What about the diseases that are among today's wildlife.  Will the mammoth be immune to them?  mostly likely not. 

Like Dichotomy said...    "Mammoth Jerky"

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Re: the mighty mammoth shall walk the earth again!
« Reply #58 on: January 19, 2011, 10:52:04 AM »
Quote from: oakranger on January 19, 2011, 10:19:42 AM
OK, What about the diseases that are among today's wildlife.  Will the mammoth be immune to them?  mostly likely not.  


100% immunity is not something we are born with, we rely on our mothers immune system as a basis and build on it as we encounter new threats during our life. I think the mammoth clone would have exactly the same immune system as the DNA it was created from, then very quickly it would build new immunities to whatever we have floating around these days.
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Re: the mighty mammoth shall walk the earth again!
« Reply #59 on: January 19, 2011, 10:59:25 AM »
Quote from: mechanic on January 19, 2011, 10:52:04 AM

100% immunity is not something we are born with, we rely on our mothers immune system as a basis and build on it as we encounter new threats during our life. I think the mammoth clone would have exactly the same immune system as the DNA it was created from, then very quickly it would build new immunities to whatever we have floating around these days.
well, the way they plan on having it done is having a real elephant give birth to it, so would it also build off that elephants immune system aswell?
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