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Re: Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station
« Reply #135 on: February 18, 2011, 01:14:48 PM »
Only a P-47 with 3 drop tanks or a TA-152 with drop tanks could get near them.

Fuel burn could possibly get a problem for a Spit 14 that ups late vs a 30k B-29 and ends up in a prolonged tail chase. Most other planes (sufficient climb rate & top speed assumed) should be able to finally catch up without running out of fuel, especially if the 29 is flying lower than 30k.

A 109 at full internal fuel takes 9 minutes to get to 30K, with DT that increases to 11 minutes. A Spit 14 with DT takes 9 minutes. A P-47M and a TA 152 (both full internal) both take about 13 minutes. A Me 262 is at 30k after 20(!) minutes
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Re: Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station
« Reply #136 on: February 18, 2011, 02:33:16 PM »
A b29 will swat that 163 like a rag doll if I tried to get near it...

It shouldn't...Me 262 and the Me 163 should be rather successful in intercepting the B-29.  Both have the speed and fire power to take one on but again, it depends on the attack profile the Me 262/Me 163 driver uses.  In real life, the B-29s were massacred by the MiG 15 when they were intercepted in during the Korean War and forced the B-29 into bombing at night, the radar guided defensive gun turrets couldn't track the jets. 

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Re: Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station
« Reply #137 on: February 18, 2011, 02:35:45 PM »
It shouldn't...Me 262 and the Me 163 should be rather successful in intercepting the B-29. 

The Me163 will but the Me262 will not, particularly if the bomber is at high altitude.
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Re: Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station
« Reply #138 on: February 18, 2011, 02:43:10 PM »
It shouldn't...Me 262 and the Me 163 should be rather successful in intercepting the B-29.  Both have the speed and fire power to take one on but again, it depends on the attack profile the Me 262/Me 163 driver uses.  In real life, the B-29s were massacred by the MiG 15 when they were intercepted in during the Korean War and forced the B-29 into bombing at night, the radar guided defensive gun turrets couldn't track the jets. 

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1. 163 are one of the lightest armored planes in this game, first and much to knock it out 2. If there's a 262 at 30k (which where I'm going to be) it's gonna be SO slow and low on fuel after that long climb, it is also a big target. 3. B29's may have been blown away by mig15's, but tere isn't any mig15's in the game....
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Re: Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station
« Reply #139 on: February 18, 2011, 02:51:17 PM »
262 is going to be worthless at getting b29's at alt.
163 even a quick burst from all the firepower these beasts are packing is going tower you.
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Re: Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station
« Reply #140 on: February 18, 2011, 02:57:42 PM »
The Me163 will but the Me262 will not, particularly if the bomber is at high altitude.


Above 25,000ft, yes, the Me 262 will have its work cut out for it but below 20,000ft the Me 262 should have no troubles intercepting a B-29.

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Re: Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station
« Reply #141 on: February 18, 2011, 02:59:20 PM »
Above 25,000ft, yes, the Me 262 will have its work cut out for it but below 20,000ft the Me 262 should have no troubles intercepting a B-29.

If you think you will find a B29 below 20k, unless it is taking off or landing, you must believe in Santa Claus.

edit: They won't risk losing any perk costs associated with using a B29 at low alt, I guarantee it.
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Re: Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station
« Reply #142 on: February 18, 2011, 03:00:29 PM »

Above 25,000ft, yes, the Me 262 will have its work cut out for it but below 20,000ft the Me 262 should have no troubles intercepting a B-29.

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Re: Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station
« Reply #143 on: February 18, 2011, 03:00:45 PM »
1. 163 are one of the lightest armored planes in this game, first and much to knock it out 2. If there's a 262 at 30k (which where I'm going to be) it's gonna be SO slow and low on fuel after that long climb, it is also a big target. 3. B29's may have been blown away by mig15's, but tere isn't any mig15's in the game....

The example of using the MiG 15 was to show how vulnerable the B-29 was to attack from jets and regardless of how "light skinned" the Me 163 is, it's speed and fire power will make it more than a match when intercepting a B-29.

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Re: Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station
« Reply #144 on: February 18, 2011, 03:01:29 PM »
If you think you will find a B29 below 20k, unless it is taking off or landing, you must believe in Santa Claus.

edit: They won't risk losing any perk costs associated with using a B29 at low alt, I guarantee it.

It all depends how smart the bomber is...if it's a noob he's gonna stop at 15 smart35k


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Re: Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station
« Reply #145 on: February 18, 2011, 03:02:05 PM »
The example of using the MiG 15 was to show how vulnerable the B-29 was to attack from jets and regardless of how "light skinned" the Me 163 is, it's speed and fire power will make it more than a match when intercepting a B-29.

AKAK, the MiG15 had a much better climb rate than the WWII jets do. Not to mention, they are faster at altitude than the Me262 as well.
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Re: Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station
« Reply #146 on: February 18, 2011, 03:04:25 PM »
AKAK, the MiG15 had a much better climb rate than the WWII jets do. Not to mention, they are faster at altitude than the Me262 as well.
Probably a bit more menu averable, I think the MiG15 had a 37mm cannon too
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Re: Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station
« Reply #147 on: February 18, 2011, 03:06:58 PM »
Probably a bit more menu averable, I think the MiG15 had a 37mm cannon too

I think the instantaneous turn rate was pretty similar, the MiG had the T/W ratio and could maintain longer. The gun comparison actually favors the Me262; they had a lot more punch than the MiG did. The velocity of the rounds favors the MiG15's loadout.
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Re: Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station
« Reply #148 on: February 18, 2011, 03:17:16 PM »
What's this high altitude interception stuff about?

 - just follow them home in an NOE B-25H and plink em with 75mm HE when they're landing ,  or for more flexibility - up a p47 / p38 with DTs and rockets.  :devil

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Re: Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station
« Reply #149 on: February 18, 2011, 03:18:43 PM »
What's this high altitude interception stuff about?

 - just follow them home in an NOE B-25H and plink em with 75mm HE when they're landing ,  or for more flexibility - up a p47 / p38 with DTs and rockets.  :devil
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