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Wow, Carpet bombing at a whole new threshold!


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I thought the 20mm was removed because it suffered from jamming up too often?....

I thought the 20mm was removed because the Japanese complained it was unbalanced?...

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I thought the 20mm was removed because it suffered from jamming up too often?....

I already stated why it was removed and it was not due to the reliability of the 20mm cannon.

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That was my first thought, he was bombing a GV spawn!

That reminds me of the B-52 Arclight (SP?) strikes...

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That's just begging for an Me410 with 103s, lots of 151s, or a BK5.

Looks like the bomb bay doors open much slower than the real thing. :headscratch:
Just an aesthetic worry - IIRC bomb doors are functionally open, instantly.
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That's just begging for an Me410 with 103s, lots of 151s, or a BK5.

What's the speed & climbrate of a 410 with the BK5 at 30k?  :headscratch:
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What's the speed & climbrate of a 410 with the BK5 at 30k?  :headscratch:
Prolly as bad as trying to get an Il2 up there.  But the lighter 103 loadouts might be agile enough..  Now I have to look it up.
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Just an aesthetic worry - IIRC bomb doors are functionally open, instantly.
This film shows the doors opening more slowly than I recalled from previous sources.  There could very well be multiple modes the doors could be operated under allowing for different needs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5veRsZ_nEpQ

Very interesting.  This is a fantastic plane and should be quite the experience in AH.

<edit> Looking at the film HTC released, the doors in that instance appeared to open at a speed comparable to the actual film I referenced.
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Prolly as bad as trying to get an Il2 up there.  But the lighter 103 loadouts might be agile enough..  Now I have to look it up.

I found data for the 410A-1/U2 doing 390mph@ ~22,000ft and only 375 mph at 25,800ft. So I'd guess it will be significant slower than that at 30k, and that's without  a heavy Mk 103. According to the chart AKAK posted some time ago, the B-29 had a top speed around 348mph at that altitude.
Even when assuming a slightly (but not much) slower speed for the 29, the 410 would make a very bad interceptor if the player choses to fly the B-29 at that alt. And I think that could  be the case quite often, if the 29 gets a heavy perk tag. (That was my experience with Lancaster sorties in EW too).


Actually most fighters will struggle to combat the B-29 at that altitude. I can think of only a few that are really suited for that role.
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The DB603As make roughly half as much power at 30 kft.  I'm not sure if I have info to make a powerloading comparison with other planes in AH at 30 kft.
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and that's without  a heavy Mk 103.
The overall numbers aren't flattering, but you've basically got powerloading halved (very roughly) from sea level power, and only ~10% penalty from a standard cfg (the basic 2x12.7mm + 2x20mm) to heaviest (BK5), and 5% penalty from 6x20mm or 2x103 to a BK5 loadout.  So really not much difference across the board.

I'm thinking 410 because the expense in setting up a few passes seems possibly worth the benefit of the 410's extra firepower. As long as the B-29 is no faster than the interceptors considered, I think it's doable.  I expect (been out of the game forever, so don't recall exact numbers, only overall trends) a 410 doing a few dozen MPH more than a B-29 is still manageable.  It's only with really slow interceptors (e.g. B25H) that you really don't get more than a few passes and then get helplessly get left behind.

What the overall picture looks like is a lot like the standard Luftwaffe MO - only as much effectiveness from the plane as the pilot provides in discipline.
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