I really wish they would go to a Air Warrior type HO shot!

[Ack-Ack]

Id prefer the AW way. It forced you to fight if you wanted a kill. I remember the picker types complaining in that game. Well, they finally got a game to suit them here.

Take off the rose tinted glasses...the same game play you see currently in AH, you saw the same all those years ago in AW.


ack-ack

[Ack-Ack]

I feel people should not cry over Ho-tards they usually fly planes with big heavy weapons loads and will not be able to win a dogfight in anyother fashion other than HO or boom and zoom.

So basically you're saying that you utterly lack any sort of skill that you need to resort to taking the head on shot?  At least someone is willing to admit they aren't very good and need to resort to taking head on shots to make up for their lack of skill.

ack-ack

[Ack-Ack]

I liked the way AW handled Head-On's.  As simple as it was, the positive side effect to it was you actually had to fight to get kills.

LOL!  I'm sure guys like RAGS and Krieg really worked for those kills in AW.

ack-ack

[grizz441]

I'm a terrible Ho'er but I've learned you have to use it

You must be doing something wrong then because this is untrue.  

The only time I ever "HO" is when the other guy doesn't have guns on me.  Any time he does or can get guns on me I maneuever to where he may have a <5% chance shot.  The times I get hit hard or killed on a head on merge are rare.

[lulu]

ho is part of the game and collisions too.

Let's avoid to be able to fire with zoom on because this is 'unrealistic'

If your zoom is on, then you can release your bombs only.

DAMN!

 

[FiLtH]

Take off the rose tinted glasses...the same game play you see currently in AH, you saw the same all those years ago in AW.


ack-ack

   No thats not true at all. In AW there were very few, who flew like many fly in here today. It just didnt pay off because the chances of popping a guy in the nose was slim to none. You could see them coming, even if busy in a fight, turn into them and show them your spinner and they would hit nothing. Add in more numbers in here, and more and more people flying to live rather than for the fight, and its a whole lot different.

   Im willing to bet that some that flew there were so-so and this game allowed them to do better because it gave them the options for a kill that lacked in AW.

[RTHolmes]

AW had no collisions and all but 3% of the HO shots where thrown out. So if you fired 100 rounds in your HO attempt only 3 of them counted. - think it was 3%, it was a long time ago.

was that for shots from of the whole of the front quarter?

You could see them coming, even if busy in a fight, turn into them and show them your spinner and they would hit nothing.

that sounds really gamey to me, the unrealistic modelling leads to unrealistic flying ...

[guncrasher]

You must be doing something wrong then because this is untrue. 

The only time I ever "HO" is when the other guy doesn't have guns on me.  Any time he does or can get guns on me I maneuever to where he may have a <5% chance shot.  The times I get hit hard or killed on a head on merge are rare.

saw you ho a plane last night.  before you get all upset and say it wasnt, i gotta say that was a well executed ho, since the guy was so preoccupied chasing another that he never saw you.  which gave me an idea and how safely conduct more ho's  .

semp

[Ardy123]

I believe AW had  a 3d bubble around the aircraft, and so there were many places where it a 'hit' could be registered but in reality, would not be anywhere near a 'hit'. Because of this limitation, they added 'percentages' to it, but I believe the hit detection in AH is a bit more advanced.

[grizz441]

saw you ho a plane last night.  before you get all upset and say it wasnt, i gotta say that was a well executed ho, since the guy was so preoccupied chasing another that he never saw you.  which gave me an idea and how safely conduct more ho's  .

semp

Like I said, I ho planes that don't have guns on me.  Pretty smart strategy eh?   

[LLogann]

I'm not taking sides here but I really can't stand dumb responses like this, especially from somebody skilled enough to never get "stuck" in a head-on.......  Would you call Claire Chennault and his Flying Tigers "skill-less?"

Anybody that female dogs about the ho, is OBVIOUSLY not SKILLED enough to evade it.  Because it ain't hard... The only times I am ho'd is when I am ho'ing also.  All other attempts are easily put down.

So basically you're saying that you utterly lack any sort of skill that you need to resort to taking the head on shot?  At least someone is willing to admit they aren't very good and need to resort to taking head on shots to make up for their lack of skill.

ack-ack

[The Fugitive]

was that for shots from of the whole of the front quarter?


that sounds really gamey to me, the unrealistic modelling leads to unrealistic flying ...

I believe so.

[Shane]

Interestingly enough, the most valuable tip I got in AW3 is as applicable to AH as it was to AW but for different reasons.

Let me tell you, hands down, HTC has always had a much better data transferral than AW did. Latency was a more discernable difference way back when.

The advice was simple, start a lead turn about 1 - 1.5k out, of course doing the dive for merge speed if possible. What this often did was put me on their 6 after they blew past me.  In AH it's still doable but I'd start it in the MA around 800-1k out (to avoid the HO)  In the DA where the unwritten rule is no ho on merge, you can cut it closer in to about 500yds, with the same result, pulling into an offensive position.

I much prefer HTC's implementation (and it took me a few months to adjust after coming over from AW3.) I can't HO very well, heh, never could, but there are times when it's simply the shot to take.

ymmv

[Ramon]

AW had a published defensive strategy which recommended you go Head On to your opponent.  Do this because his fire would most likely have no effect.  If your opponent fired through the Head On confrontation you had a chance to get around on him first.  This was because of his delay in manoeuvre while firing at your nose.  That will not work here in Aces High.  First because you most likely will get blasted from the sky or second you will collide and sustain damage.  I believe Aces High is much better than the old Air Warrior.  Complaints really do go loop de loop.  Just my recollection of events past.  In my opinion there are no better opponents than humans, every one has the capacity to spring a new trick or tactic.  I believe you cannot fly your plane to please even a minority of pilots, especially if you shoot some of them down.  That surely torques their jaws and brings their full wrath upon you.  The old saying: put 100 fighter pilots into a room and tell them 99 will die today and 100 of them will look around the room at the 99 other poor unfortunates about to die. 

[IronDog]

AH method of getting hits on a plane is much better than AW.I could make shots in AW that just aren't doable  in AH.The no collision made for better fights,as you could make the merge work for you w/o worrying about getting a face full of lead.Air Warrior  was the best around at the time,and many of it's pilots came to AH,and they brought class acts with them.I will never speak poorly of the sim that got me started in my adventure in air to air combat.I'm enjoying AH very much at this time,after nearly quitting a couple of months ago.I try to overlook the things I don't care for,and the personalities that I disdain.My Skipper RT Holmes getting that HO with his Spit 1 was sweet as it came against one of the more notable Ho'ers in the game!
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