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Offline oboe

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Re: KI-84
« Reply #60 on: July 03, 2011, 08:08:46 AM »
No kidding - good to see the artistic talent come out!

I'd check with Skuzzy about the bullet holes.  Since they simulate damage that the game handles I don't know how HTC feels about it.  I haven't seen a skin before that has them.   It'd be maddening/saddening to get an email from HTC saying "Please remove bullet holes and resubmit" because that would likely set you back another skin pack release cycle.  

For what its worth, I think its the apparent depth of the rivets and the black splotchy areas in the skin color that are giving me the impression of corrosion/jungle rot.  It's an incrediblly realistic look though!

One more tip:  when you create your panel lines, be sure to go in game with your skin and look externally at the a/c and operate control surfaces (ailerons, elevators, flaps, rudder) and ensure the panel lines line up with the movement of the surface.  Sometimes they are off between one wing or another (I think that's the case in the '38) so you might need to do some tweaking).

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Re: KI-84
« Reply #61 on: July 03, 2011, 08:20:26 AM »
Thank you guys...very much thank you :salute

ya that would suk to have it not excepted because of the bullet holes. I have not seen any skins with them so I figured I would do something a bit different.


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Re: KI-84
« Reply #62 on: July 03, 2011, 09:39:02 AM »
Its da ghooooooossssttttt pplllaaane ooooooo that is coming to hunt down the man that shot him down.  :D Had to do it, just looked like a ghost plane.  :eek:
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Re: KI-84
« Reply #63 on: July 03, 2011, 11:11:49 AM »
Japanese paint application wasn't very good, but it wasn't that bad.  Japanese aluminum was actually pretty good.  It was an alloy that was stronger than ours for a given weight, but it did corrode.  The Japanese were aware that it corroded, but found it acceptable as it did not corrode in the intended lifespan of a given aircraft's design, e.g. by the time an A6M started to corrode there would no longer be any A6Ms in service. The corrosion took the form of whitish, metal flakes as I recall.

Your Ki-84 really does look like it spent about 20 years in the Philippine jungles.

As to the bullet holes, they are so tightly clustered the only way I can see them having happened would have been from something like a submachine gun while it was on the ground.
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Re: KI-84
« Reply #64 on: July 03, 2011, 11:23:58 AM »
I think it's over done too, it looks great, but over done. Post some of the pictures you were going by showing the peeling and such. If you can prove it looked that bad it would help its case to get passed.

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Re: KI-84
« Reply #65 on: July 03, 2011, 11:42:31 AM »
Its da ghooooooossssttttt pplllaaane ooooooo that is coming to hunt down the man that shot him down.  :D Had to do it, just looked like a ghost plane.  :eek:
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Re: KI-84
« Reply #66 on: July 03, 2011, 12:32:25 PM »
I like it alot....the wear is thick but not inconceivable

dunno about the pre applied bullet holes ....my only qualm.

Great work buddy.... :D


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Re: KI-84
« Reply #67 on: July 03, 2011, 12:35:56 PM »
Wow Ink! Nice job!

I tend to think it's a bit over-weathered, but then again, it looks pretty hot...

Makes me wonder though- how could we get a few objects on the ground/alongside runways/scattered (lightly) across the landscape of weathered aircraft (or GV) wreckage?

Fantastic start! 

My biggest qualm, honestly, is that I'd like you to do something for an F4U when you get around to it, lol!
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Re: KI-84
« Reply #68 on: July 03, 2011, 12:48:03 PM »
BillyD,

Those 84s have a lot of paint missing, but they don't look filthy other than that.  ink's looks, well, like it has a lot more than just flaking paint going on.
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Re: KI-84
« Reply #69 on: July 03, 2011, 02:05:11 PM »
anyway the case for the wear is evident its not overdone....this vid is bad bellybutton btw....check the Ki at 14 seconds or so....very little paint left at all.

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Re: KI-84
« Reply #70 on: July 03, 2011, 02:31:45 PM »
thanx for the replies, :salute appreciate the honesty  :aok

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Re: KI-84
« Reply #71 on: July 03, 2011, 02:49:54 PM »
Great pics, BillyD!   Top one shows clearly raised head rivets on the vertical fuselage panel section seams.  But the horizontal rows of rivet heads are much less defined.

I don't think anyone is questioning the amount of surface area where the paint has peeled or worn off.  But ink's use of multiple shades of color - greys, whites, browns, and blacks, give the metal surface the appearance of serious corrosion and a rough metal surface.   In the picture, the paint has worn away but the metal underneath is still in fairly good condition.

btw is that a bullet hole at the top of the Hinomaru?      

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Re: KI-84
« Reply #72 on: July 03, 2011, 03:59:00 PM »
Its da ghooooooossssttttt pplllaaane ooooooo that is coming to hunt down the man that shot him down.  :D Had to do it, just looked like a ghost plane.  :eek:

Helllllll yeaaaa.

I dont think it is overdone at all. Does every skin have to be the same....do they all have to look like they have been weatherd exactly the same amount? The artist idea is what stands out here. It is unique. Exactly what we need in AH...hellllooooo...something NEW.

I love it INK.. I think that is the coolest skin in a long time...Way better than some of Krusty's work.

Freaken ghost plane is gonna hunt you down.....

Great job.






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Re: KI-84
« Reply #73 on: July 03, 2011, 04:55:06 PM »
 :rofl

Agent your too much.... :t

that's a Muppet for you :devil

here is an updated version....I still have the "ghost plane"  version but truly I am not sure which one I like better  :headscratch:

I did think the red was too bright on the "meatballs" I wanted to show a faded paint in some areas
also some paint that was still "vibrant" with the peeling, and chipping from rocks and what not, I really put my heart into this,

thanx all for the replies.



Wow Ink! Nice job!

I tend to think it's a bit over-weathered, but then again, it looks pretty hot...

Makes me wonder though- how could we get a few objects on the ground/alongside runways/scattered (lightly) across the landscape of weathered aircraft (or GV) wreckage?

Fantastic start! 

My biggest qualm, honestly, is that I'd like you to do something for an F4U when you get around to it, lol!

give me details.....which one? how do you want it to look?  I would be Honored to do one for ya, but I need details damnit :furious



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Re: KI-84
« Reply #74 on: July 03, 2011, 05:05:24 PM »
is it just me or does anyone else wish weathering wasent included on the skins? idk, i just think it makes the paintjob look bad personally.


i wish ether

1: planes would spawn with a fresh paintjob, and obtain weathering during there sortie.

or 2: every plane spawns with a fresh paintjob, and with each sortie aquires a bit of weathering to its look. but you'd also have a "reset" button for the paintjob incase you didnt like the weathered look.


just my opinion  :salute