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Offline AKKuya

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Chinese Aircraft Carrier
« on: August 10, 2011, 04:26:15 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/chinas-first-aircraft-carrier-makes-maiden-sea-trial-000047792.html

Just saw that the maiden voyage is in progress.  Sloped runway deck. 

I'm guessing choppers and VTOL/STOL aircraft.  Any guesses to which seabirds the Chinese will be taking?
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Re: Chinese Aircraft Carrier
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2011, 04:31:01 PM »
Since the Chinese are physically quite small on average, their CV is only 12 feet tall and will probably equip the latest in electric R/C 1/4 scale aircraft.

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Re: Chinese Aircraft Carrier
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2011, 04:31:42 PM »
Since the Chinese are physically quite small on average, their CV is only 12 feet tall and will probably equip the latest in electric R/C 1/4 scale aircraft.

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Re: Chinese Aircraft Carrier
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2011, 04:39:28 PM »
That's the old "Varyag" once of the Soviet Navy. Very cool to see them actually get that thing out on the water (not in the international competition sense, just the pure love of all things Navy/Aviation).

I thought they were going to get some Su-33s to go with it, but I don't know if that ever happened. the Mig-29 Naval varient might be another alternative until the Chinese can get an indigenous design out there.

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Re: Chinese Aircraft Carrier
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2011, 05:02:05 PM »
Looks like china is seeking the ability they lack.......deployment of force.
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Re: Chinese Aircraft Carrier
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2011, 05:15:35 PM »
More Chinese Junk? Pardon the pun.
I wonder if it is of the same quality as some of the Chinese
merchandise I have recently purchased.

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Re: Chinese Aircraft Carrier
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2011, 05:24:13 PM »
China is ongoing fast, like US in past.

The power is shifting.




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Re: Chinese Aircraft Carrier
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2011, 05:41:09 PM »
I wouldn't call buying decades-old soviet-block-era mothballed junk and finally finishing retrofiting it to begin months and months of trials "ongoing fast".  I do agree, they're begining to develop an offensive/deployable force, but I think they want CVs just to be used as an extention of their political and economic influence (think humanitarian efforts to an ally or neutral nation that they desperatley want to improve a relationship with - currently it's US, UN, NATO/EU or bust.)
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Re: Chinese Aircraft Carrier
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2011, 05:47:47 PM »
Call me paranoid but china beefing up their offensive capabilities makes me somewhat worried
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Re: Chinese Aircraft Carrier
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2011, 05:59:34 PM »
Any guesses to which seabirds the Chinese will be taking?

Looks like when all is said and done, here is your winner:

http://airforceworld.com/pla/J-15-naval-carrier-based-fighter-su-33-china.htm

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New carrier-based F-15 fighter
 Su-33 Introduction | Detailed military Su-27

 New carrier-based fighter suspected military, shaped like a Su-33, with canard. It is believed that the aircraft Central Air Industrial Manufacturing Company, Shenyang Aircraft design and manufacturing, the design from the F-11, with reference to the Ukrainian T-10K-3 demonstrator. 2011, appeared on the Internet, Gu Songfen chief engineer and others in T-10K-3 demonstrator before pictures.

 July 2, 2010 5th edition reports: China's first fixed-wing carrier-based fighter aircraft F-15 aircraft in May this year entered the test phase. Allegedly, the aircraft will be deployed in China purchased from Ukraine, "Kuznetsov" aircraft carrier designed and Chinese built aircraft carrier. According to a message from the network, May 6, 2010 F -15 flying leaps for the first time slip, the same year, July 8, a second test. If true, then the proof of F -15 aircraft carriers will become the main carrier-based aircraft. Although there is now no doubt as -15 F, but still no official information as a basis. -15 F is still present in the test, another two-seat F -15, according to a message is also under development.

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Re: Chinese Aircraft Carrier
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2011, 06:03:40 PM »
Call me paranoid but china beefing up their offensive capabilities makes me somewhat worried
Then you gotta remember its tag "Made in China" I'm not worried at all now :D
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Re: Chinese Aircraft Carrier
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2011, 06:04:33 PM »
Looks like when all is said and done, here is your winner:

http://airforceworld.com/pla/J-15-naval-carrier-based-fighter-su-33-china.htm

Google translation of the first paragraph:
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Re: Chinese Aircraft Carrier
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2011, 06:08:16 PM »
I'm not personaly, at least for a while to come.  Heck, maybe it'll even bring more support from our government to our own Navy to make sure we maintain our superiority, so in that light this could be one of the best things for our own navy in a long time.

China will have eventualy one refurbished soviet-era designed CV with two more cofirmed (and most likely) tweaked copies of that same decades-old design.  Top it off that they haven't finished equiping them, have no trained or experienced carrier crews (although they're likely working on that as we speak), have no trained or experienced naval aviators, and don't even have a plane yet that can operate off them.  I highly doubt it'll be a threat to our nation's current inventory of 11 CVs (not to mention the combined power of all our allies CVs), the brand spanking new ones currently being designed and developed to replace the older outdated designs, and our extremely experienced, tried and battle-hardened sailors and equipment.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2011, 06:16:32 PM by Babalonian »
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Re: Chinese Aircraft Carrier
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2011, 06:15:45 PM »
F22 Will wipe it off the face of the planet no doubt  :rock

Waste of money and fuel.  $10 says there's more than one US dolphin within snooping range of that ship and its maiden voyage currently under way at this moment, and probably twice as many within striking distance of it.
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Re: Chinese Aircraft Carrier
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2011, 06:16:32 PM »
F22 Will wipe it off the face of the planet no doubt  :rock

Of much greater interest will be how it compares to:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/taiwan/idf.htm?P_AVPASS=PHDGBITAVPASSP



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