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Offline Yeager

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Re: P51 Mustang into the crowd at the Reno Races just now
« Reply #105 on: September 20, 2011, 10:07:32 AM »
Quote from: Shuffler on September 20, 2011, 08:53:14 AM
Doubt there will be lawful recourse. All they need to do is read the back of their ticket...........


Watched that newer video..... you'd think that some outfit that called themselves NEWS would know the difference between a RACE and an AIRSHOW.
I think it is safe to say that there are enough elements of an air show, static displays, fly overs....etc etc that the Reno Air Race does indeed qualify as an minor airshow of sorts.   Golfer, straighten me out on this if I am mistaken.
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Re: P51 Mustang into the crowd at the Reno Races just now
« Reply #106 on: September 20, 2011, 10:50:55 AM »
Quote from: Yeager on September 20, 2011, 10:07:32 AM
I think it is safe to say that there are enough elements of an air show, static displays, fly overs....etc etc that the Reno Air Race does indeed qualify as an minor airshow of sorts.   Golfer, straighten me out on this if I am mistaken.

In the same respect as the Indy 500 being a race and carshow. They are however referring to a crash in a race.
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Re: P51 Mustang into the crowd at the Reno Races just now
« Reply #107 on: September 20, 2011, 11:19:39 AM »
its the mainstream media.  what do you expect?  absolute accuracy?
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Re: P51 Mustang into the crowd at the Reno Races just now
« Reply #108 on: September 20, 2011, 12:17:34 PM »
Any accuracy at all would be a good place to start.
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Re: P51 Mustang into the crowd at the Reno Races just now
« Reply #109 on: September 20, 2011, 03:23:28 PM »
OK, I know that I'm kicking over a hornet's nest with this one, but I am so disgusted by this low-life (he advertises daily in Phoenix as well) that I had to post this.


And, yes, I am well aware that the majority of lawyers out there don't wear this slimy suit.


http://www.renoairshowcrashattorney.com/


If I was a malicious individual, I'd be calling on fellow OC's to:


1) Tie up his toll free# with scornful calls


2) Launch a denial of service attack on his website


But, that would be if I was malicious.
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Re: P51 Mustang into the crowd at the Reno Races just now
« Reply #110 on: September 20, 2011, 03:26:02 PM »
Truly amazing how an accident like this one can bring out the best in people, and the worst.. This is a clear example of the later.

That guy disgusts me  :mad:
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Re: P51 Mustang into the crowd at the Reno Races just now
« Reply #111 on: September 20, 2011, 05:18:52 PM »
my last post would not last long. it was filled with just as much low taste as that lawyer has.  <S>  to the good hearted souls. damn the rest  :noid
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Re: P51 Mustang into the crowd at the Reno Races just now
« Reply #112 on: September 20, 2011, 06:36:25 PM »
Quote from: Wolfala on September 20, 2011, 03:23:28 PM
OK, I know that I'm kicking over a hornet's nest with this one, but I am so disgusted by this low-life (he advertises daily in Phoenix as well) that I had to post this.


And, yes, I am well aware that the majority of lawyers out there don't wear this slimy suit.


http://www.renoairshowcrashattorney.com/


If I was a malicious individual, I'd be calling on fellow OC's to:


1) Tie up his toll free# with scornful calls


2) Launch a denial of service attack on his website


But, that would be if I was malicious.

His secretary seems nice.

EDIT: Nevermind. I don't need a permanent vacation just yet.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2011, 06:39:02 PM by Melvin »
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Re: P51 Mustang into the crowd at the Reno Races just now
« Reply #113 on: September 20, 2011, 07:05:13 PM »
Poor girl is going to take a lot of heat because of her employer.
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Re: P51 Mustang into the crowd at the Reno Races just now
« Reply #114 on: September 20, 2011, 07:56:53 PM »
Not sure if anyone has posted this link or not, but of the vids I've seen, this one seems to have the clearest view of the plane:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/20/national/main20109115.shtml
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Re: P51 Mustang into the crowd at the Reno Races just now
« Reply #115 on: September 20, 2011, 08:20:14 PM »
It is just so unbelievable.  So unreal.
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Re: P51 Mustang into the crowd at the Reno Races just now
« Reply #116 on: September 20, 2011, 08:25:23 PM »
Quote from: Yeager on September 19, 2011, 10:54:07 PM
To have so much riding on a trim tab is almost approaching the breaking point of calculated risk with regards to pilots, spectators and machines.

Trim tabs do just what is being described -- that is their usual function.  Yes, they are subject to force during high-speed flight, and you don't want them to fail at high speed.  Same is true of many elements of an airplane:  a wing, a tail, an elevator, a windshield, a crankshaft, etc.
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Re: P51 Mustang into the crowd at the Reno Races just now
« Reply #117 on: September 20, 2011, 08:39:13 PM »
Quote from: Brooke on September 20, 2011, 08:25:23 PM
Trim tabs do just what is being described -- that is their usual function.  Yes, they are subject to force during high-speed flight, and you don't want them to fail at high speed.  Same is true of many elements of an airplane:  a wing, a tail, an elevator, a windshield, a crankshaft, etc.
Agreed.  I never understood before this that a trim tab could be so critical as to cause the loss of an airplane. 

The races will continue, as they should.  that much is for sure.
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Re: P51 Mustang into the crowd at the Reno Races just now
« Reply #118 on: September 20, 2011, 09:05:51 PM »
The year I went to Reno, one of the P-51 racers went through the wake of another plane, causing flutter, then broke apart and crashed.

It's a tragedy that one hopes never happens, but racing probably can't be fully safe unless it is all virtual.
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Re: P51 Mustang into the crowd at the Reno Races just now
« Reply #119 on: September 20, 2011, 10:47:30 PM »
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Michael Wogan, 22, Phoenix, Ariz.

When I read the name I wasn't sure if it was from the family I had know as a kid.

I found out today the son was killed instantly plane landed right where he was, father is still in critical condition.

I knew the uncle as a kid, still friends with his ex wife. She teaches a class with my wife. Very sad for the family.

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