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Offline Tyrannis

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Re: Hanger Queens
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2011, 12:45:55 PM »
Quote from: gyrene81 on October 18, 2011, 12:02:03 PM
as good as the gloster meteor...   :neener:

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If you wish to mock the meteor, go find a brit.  :P
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Re: Hanger Queens
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2011, 01:04:07 PM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on October 18, 2011, 12:13:28 PM
Nothing wrong with the flaps at all.  It's stated in the P-40 flight manual not to deploy flaps above speeds of 140mph IAS.

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that doesn't mean they couldn't deploy over that speed....this game simulates planes, or their manual?
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Re: Hanger Queens
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2011, 01:11:01 PM »
Quote from: Noir on October 18, 2011, 01:04:07 PM
that doesn't mean they couldn't deploy over that speed....this game simulates planes, or their manual?

 :huh Pray tell... what documentation should they use then?

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Re: Hanger Queens
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2011, 01:23:23 PM »
Quote from: Tyrannis on October 18, 2011, 10:56:05 AM
speaking of the new p40s, which is the best dogfighter out of the 2? the N or the F?

Been trying them both out, Ive had more kills in the F and i like that it has no nose intake blocking the sights, but i love the N's ordance capabilities and cocpit.
hummm..f or n    fffff or nnnn     ...... fluff'n p40!  :furious

 sorry,what was ur question?
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Offline gyrene81

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Re: Hanger Queens
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2011, 01:30:07 PM »
Quote from: Noir on October 18, 2011, 01:04:07 PM
that doesn't mean they couldn't deploy over that speed....this game simulates planes, or their manual?
really? sure about that? perhaps you can convince hitech that "maximum safe speed" doesn't mean can't be done...maybe the one plane with fully manual flap controls will be able to do what pilots claimed they could do.
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Re: Hanger Queens
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2011, 01:34:26 PM »
Quote from: SmokinLoon on October 18, 2011, 12:31:30 PM
I was told once upon a time by a WWII naval aviator instructor that the first thing they did after reading the manual and memorizing some minor things was to throw them away.   :D  I will even quote (as close as I recall) the late fellow: "We did things in those planes we were never supposed to do and we did them on a daily basis, we had to." 
winner winner chicken dinner!!

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Re: Hanger Queens
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2011, 01:41:44 PM »
So... essentially you guys are talking about changing the modeling based on anecdotal evidence?

...Yeah, that would end well.

Wiley.
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Re: Hanger Queens
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2011, 01:43:25 PM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on October 18, 2011, 12:13:28 PM
Nothing wrong with the flaps at all.  It's stated in the P-40 flight manual not to deploy flaps above speeds of 140mph IAS.

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:rofl Akak you make me lol . the manual?  wish i had 2 manuals so i could hold them out of the cocpit and use them as flaps!
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Re: Hanger Queens
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2011, 01:51:34 PM »
Quote from: uptown on October 18, 2011, 01:43:25 PM
:rofl Akak you make me lol . the manual?  wish i had 2 manuals so i could hold them out of the cocpit and use them as flaps!
it's not ack-ack, hitech uses what the manuals show. and it just so happens none of the p-40 manuals show any maneuvering flaps but they do show maximum safe speed for flap deployment of any degree is 140mph.
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Re: Hanger Queens
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2011, 01:51:43 PM »
Quote from: Wiley on October 18, 2011, 01:41:44 PM
So... essentially you guys are talking about changing the modeling based on anecdotal evidence?

...Yeah, that would end well.

Wiley.
No not me. I don't care if the 40 is changed at all. I'll just fly the 39 instead and leave the 40 where I found it. IT THE HANGER.  :airplane:
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Re: Hanger Queens
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2011, 02:00:35 PM »
Quote from: gyrene81 on October 18, 2011, 01:51:34 PM
it's not ack-ack, hitech uses what the manuals show. and it just so happens none of the p-40 manuals show any maneuvering flaps but they do show maximum safe speed for flap deployment of any degree is 140mph.
o you silly manual thumpers. Ok you win. Are you finished with your "manual"? I need another one.  :neener:
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Re: Hanger Queens
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2011, 02:02:53 PM »
Quote from: uptown on October 18, 2011, 02:00:35 PM
o you silly manual thumpers. Ok you win. Are you finished with your "manual"? I need another one.  :neener:
yer barkin up the wrong tree homer...i'm not hitech.

oh and, you would be one of the first in line to call someone luftwhiner if they said something about the flaps on the 109, which considering the fact that they are fully manual, should be most capable of deploying at least 10 degrees at speeds higher than the manual dictates.
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Re: Hanger Queens
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2011, 02:55:01 PM »
The manual I have specifically states that full flaps can be deployed at or below 140 mph. In the appendix for long range ferry flights, it goes on to state that flaps should not be retracted until past 160 mph. So 140 mph may not be the maximum safe deployment speed.



I think there is some need to look further into this subject.
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Re: Hanger Queens
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2011, 02:59:06 PM »
Quote from: Baumer on October 18, 2011, 02:55:01 PM
The manual I have specifically states that full flaps can be deployed at or below 140 mph. In the appendix for long range ferry flights, it goes on to state that flaps should not be retracted until past 160 mph. So 140 mph may not be the maximum safe deployment speed.

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I think there is some need to look further into this subject.

Great piece of evidence.  Official documents are original sources and the best evidence to wager righteousness!!!   :)
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Re: Hanger Queens
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2011, 03:00:22 PM »
nice find
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