Me 410 data

[Debrody]

Thanks!

[Chilli]

With all the variations, I am not even sure what seat the pilot sits in      Good stuff, kudos for those that are talented enough to figure it all out.

[Krusty]

Soooooo.... Any official word whether HTC will put this in? 



 

[Megalodon]

I'm sure this has been posted before. If not enjoy
I found it interesting watching all the movements and how the rear guns worked etc..

Film Document
http://wn.com/Messerschmitt_Me_410_Hornisse

 






 

[Krusty]

From LEMB, which doesn't let you in unless you have login for the forum, so I will post it here....

In a discussion regarding Me410 performance, and replying to a question about the impact of different loadouts:

"There are figures for just this given in Mankau/Petrick, near the end of the book.

BK5 listed as 15kph penalty, 2x 3x WG21 : 20 kph. Abwurfanlange Mittelflugel - 4 x SC 50 od. 4 x BL-Bomben : 25 kph. Both 2x300L and 2x900L drop tank configurations : 25 kph. The external MG151 pod isn't listed, and doesn't show up in Stocker/Petrick either, so it was possibly one of those field-mods. The pod itself looks like the one that some late Fw190A's used. Might be the very same type."

He says 2x 3 WGR21, so I don't know if he's confusing the 3x WGR15 test configuration, or if he means the 2x 2 configuration they really used. It would be easy enough to compare to Me110 drag. It should be identical to that, because it was 110 units that adopted it to the 410 from their old airframes.

Related note: Does anybody know what the records say for the Fw190A's underwing WB151 pod? How much drag does that add (as in how many MPH are lost)?

[moot]

2x 3x WGr21 was in the factory options offered, but I've seen no pics and at least one reliable source says they were not used because too draggy.  It's consistent  everything else, e.g. removing factory-installed armor being the first thing many ground crews did when they got the planes.

[Krusty]

The 4x WGR21 load on the 110G currently drains 19mph, according to icepac's in-game testing (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,318817.msg4157843.html#msg4157843) so why does it list there only a 20kph (12.5mph) loss from Mankau/Petrick? Was it a different angle of setup, reducing drag? Or just one of those quirks?

Just curious.

[moot]

Aerodynamics are dynamic.  For a given draggy item you lose this much speed at 250 mph and that much at 330.  There's that and there could be all sorts of other parameters at play.  And then this is a comparison between two airframes, and one of them a real one versus a virtual one.

[Babalonian]

Soooooo.... Any official word whether HTC will put this in? 

(Image removed from quote.)

 

I don't honestly see why not, although it may be for a price or later (and lower ENY) variant.



Is that a 50mm in that 410, or is he just happy to see that Yankee B-17?

[Scherf]

Thanks for the docs.   

Where should we send any others we might happen to have?

[Pyro]

Send them to me please.  I can use whatever documentation you have.   

[Skyguns MKII]

gotta have the 50mm pyro 

[Skyguns MKII]

"the BK-5 cannon with 21 rounds, to turn the aircraft into a dedicated bomber destroyer. The BK 5 cannon - derived from the Panzer III tank's main armament, the 50 mm (2 in) KwK 39 L/60 - allowed the Me 410s to shoot at their targets from over 914 m (1,000 yd), a distance at which the bombers' defensive armament was useless"

[Karnak]

I hope the Me410 is modeled in the better range of performance levels that we've seen documented on this forum.

[Krusty]

"the BK-5 cannon with 21 rounds, to turn the aircraft into a dedicated bomber destroyer. The BK 5 cannon - derived from the Panzer III tank's main armament, the 50 mm (2 in) KwK 39 L/60 - allowed the Me 410s to shoot at their targets from over 914 m (1,000 yd), a distance at which the bombers' defensive armament was useless"

That was Hitler's dream, and a nice theory... As you can see in the picture above, they did get quite close to deliver their shots. The guns also had a bad habit of jamming after 1 or 2 rounds, and the fight would be pressed on with just a light 2x20mm cannon loadout.