Strategic vs tactical: Just an idea...

[Lusche]

that came to be a minute ago while washing the dishes (wife will be back home from work soon  ), and that's why I post it here and not in the wishlist yet.

Been thinking about strats, targets for bombers, milking of town centers and gameplay for a few days.

How about...   making towns and bases only be relevant for 'attack' score, and only the strats relevant for 'bomber' score? We already have a similar thing for fighter mode, which doesn't account for killed GV's.
This would truly set apart bomber (strategic) from attack (tactical) mode, and could have interesting results in gameplay.   

Thoughts?

[cobia38]

 if it aint broke, dont fix it

[JUGgler]

that came to be a minute ago while washing the dishes (wife will be back home from work soon  ), and that's why I post it here and not in the wishlist yet.

Been thinking about strats, targets for bombers, milking of town centers and gameplay for a few days.

How about...   making towns and bases only be relevant for 'attack' score, and only the strats relevant for 'bomber' score? We already have a similar thing for fighter mode, which doesn't account for killed GV's.
This would truly set apart bomber (strategic) from attack (tactical) mode, and could have interesting results in gameplay.   

Thoughts?

I like it lusche, I would also like to see every plane except bombers default to fighter mode when launched until a legitimate ground target is destroyed, then the sortie would be scored in attack mode! No more "gaming" attack mode to protect your "fighter score"  



JUGgler

[Lusche]

if it aint broke, dont fix it

Exactly my sentiment

[Lusche]

I like it lusche, I would also like to see every plane except bombers default to fighter mode when launched until a legitimate ground target is destroyed, then the sortie would be scored in attack mode! No more "gaming" attack mode to protect your "fighter score"  

Well, I think that's a different topic, so I will limit myself just the single remark: It's much less frequently done as one may (and I once did) think

[Dragon]

The town LancStuka carpet bombers will NOT like this, but I do.

[SmokinLoon]

Coding is the key, Loosh.  Coding is the key.  The target does not determine how something is scored, but rather what the vehicle is that is doing the attacking.

[Krusty]

I don't see that it matters. You're just limiting the points to "attack" score.... Since the vast majority don't play for score, what's the end result?

I'm going to bomb a town with B-25Cs.... If it is changed to the points go elsewhere... Hrm... okay. I'm still going to bomb a town with a B-25C!

[Lusche]

To be fair, I would add the "attack" category to the B-26 too. (And maybe remove it from the Mossie?)


So we would have:

B-17
B-24
B-29
Lancaster
(Mossie?)

as pure bombers.


and

B-26
Ju-88
Ki-67
B-25C
Boston III

as bomber / attackers.

[Lusche]

I don't see that it matters. You're just limiting the points to "attack" score.... Since the vast majority don't play for score, what's the end result?

I'm going to bomb a town with B-25Cs.... If it is changed to the points go elsewhere... Hrm... okay. I'm still going to bomb a town with a B-25C!

I don't want to change all and everything. I don't want everyone stop attacking bases in 24's.

I'm trying to increase variety. More reasons to select a medium bomber for a certain mission type. More reasons to use heavy bombers for "strategic" mission types. And finally, make the most difficult target the source of beloved score points instead of easy attacks random town centers.

A matter of balance and variety.

[Lusche]

Coding is the key, Loosh.  Coding is the key.  The target does not determine how something is scored, but rather what the vehicle is that is doing the attacking.

Yes, and?

It's not that code is set in stone. We did have quite a few changes that required changes in code

[shdo]

If they just made the towns worth less.

I'll still take a lanc out and white flag a town.  I won't have to contend with someone going and porking all the town centers and screwing up the timers because they are bombing for score only.

shdo

[Krusty]

Is your goal more to cultivate a wider sampling of aircraft than the typical MA "B24s slam a field" tactic?

If the goal is to cultivate more medium bombers, I think that changing the scoring category isn't the solution. I think changing the points reward is the route you want to take. Make it more lucrative to bomb in a lesser plane. Make the reward bigger for the planes that take more skill or more daring to fly into harm's way. THEN lower the reward for the big super bombers that can fly into hostile air without an escort, rack up 5 kills, and still make it home.

Meaning, lower the points you get from the B-17 and B-24 but increase them for all smaller bombers. Make the B-26 earn less points than the B-25 because it's far better armed to defend itself, for example. Come up with a "ranking" where the Betty and Ju88 earn the most points per object destroyed and the B-17 and B-24 earn the least (and B-29 of course!)


Just a counter-proposal.

[Zoney]

I'm not so sure about this because it takes something away but does not give anything back that I can see.  If buff drivers enjoy doing a tour and just hitting the town centers, well he's found his fun there and I'm fine with that.  They aren't unstoppable either, I enjoy hunting down pilots like that and find it to be a challenge too.

[Nathan60]

if it aint broke, dont fix it

there are alot   that have the opinion that the strat system is in fact, broke.