Why horde?

[PFactorDave]

It doesn't take skill to fight a horde. You fly through firering your guns pinging a few on each pass. Then you run like crazy waiting for them to auger in while trying to dive bomb. No skill required, just a bit of luck.

 

This past Saturday, I did exactly what you describe.  I had upped a 190D to investigate a red dot showing on the radar.  Never found the guy, so returned to base.  As I arrived back at my field I noticed an incoming horde of P38s.  I was considerably higher then them, so I was able to dive through the cloud of 38s several times, pinging as many as I could.

When they started their bomb runs, I scored 6 kills as they followed their bombs into the ground and augured.

I don't understand why anyone finds that to be fun.  

I especially don't understand why the guys who can actually fly and fight, find any enjoyment in flying with the horde.  If they were capping and vulching, then we would know that it is about scoring as many kills as possible.  But the way they drop hangars and roll over the bases, the horde scores very very few actual kills.  I just don't get it.

[matt]

 DArena

[The Fugitive]

I think it's constantly changing a little bit at a time.  Notice how efficteve NOE raids used to be compared to how ineffective they are now?

NOEs are very effective, especially when they are with 30 guys. HTC changed the dar settings and they dropped in use until there is an "island" map up. Then NOEs are.as popular as they were before the change.

Yes the change has happened slow, years in fact. It is too hard.to excel in this game as an individual due to the skills needed to do so. So instead of learning, and practice they opt for instant gratification by joining a horde to hide their suckage in.

[RoGenT]

It doesn't take skill to fight a horde. You fly through firering your guns pinging a few on each pass. Then you run like crazy waiting for them to auger in while trying to dive bomb. No skill required, just a bit of luck.
No it doesn't. It creates a shooting gallery until the FHs are dropped. Then it disappears before.you can get to it from next next field.

Hence the "having fun" part 

[Daddkev]

  What if the hoard is Naked?

[Slate]

  Horde beats up vacant field several acks and hangers found dead, film at 11:00.

[BowHTR]

Some of the people on this forum astound me. Nothing but a bunch of "aces" that think they know everything and that their way to play the game is the only correct way. You "aces" drive people away cause you argue with others to try to convince them that your way is the only way. You people are pathetic! If people like to fly in hordes then let them and don't try to convince them that they have no skill cause they fly in a "horde". Geez, if people like to make ho shots then their going to make them. No it doesn't mean that their not skilled, it means that you failed to maneuver to avoid the ho shot. You people on here are the real whiners. You few that have to try and prove to everyone that they have no skill, play the game wrong, and flying with a mission is a horde, are the truly pathetic people. Why does it matter is a pilot is "trained" or not? If they don't want to be you cant force them. It's their $15. Go ahead and start the flaming.

[guncrasher]

Some of the people on this forum astound me. Nothing but a bunch of "aces" that think they know everything and that their way to play the game is the only correct way. You "aces" drive people away cause you argue with others to try to convince them that your way is the only way. You people are pathetic! If people like to fly in hordes then let them and don't try to convince them that they have no skill cause they fly in a "horde". Geez, if people like to make ho shots then their going to make them. No it doesn't mean that their not skilled, it means that you failed to maneuver to avoid the ho shot. You people on here are the real whiners. You few that have to try and prove to everyone that they have no skill, play the game wrong, and flying with a mission is a horde, are the truly pathetic people. Why does it matter is a pilot is "trained" or not? If they don't want to be you cant force them. It's their $15. Go ahead and start the flaming.

fricking vtard is right  . 


I typed this while being naked.


semp

[ink]

It doesn't take skill to fight a horde. You fly through firering your guns pinging a few on each pass. Then you run like crazy waiting for them to auger in while trying to dive bomb. No skill required, just a bit of luck.
No it doesn't. It creates a shooting gallery until the FHs are dropped. Then it disappears before.you can get to it from next next field.

hmmm....that's not how I fight the hoard....

[Rob52240]

lol and don't forget to blame the lack of defense on the attackers.  Blame a failed defense on ho shots and unfair whatnots. 

If you're in a horde and I'm in it too, go ahead and blame failing to take the base on spies, then expect to get squelched by me.  Don't even consider the fact that they may have mounted a good defense or that the offense wasn't up to par on tactics or execution.

Dogfights make the game fun.  Jaw'gfights produce nothing worthwhile.  Just ask anyone who's been stuck between **dway and **rannis.  If you insist on turning to a debate to decide who the real winner actually was, don't try and drag the whole community into your hemisphere of bulls**t.

<S> those who don't cry foul at the drop of a red flag in town, or the drop of an entire mission over an enemy field.

[JUGgler]

lol and don't forget to blame the lack of defense on the attackers.  Blame a failed defense on ho shots and unfair whatnots. 

If you're in a horde and I'm in it too, go ahead and blame failing to take the base on spies, then expect to get squelched by me.  Don't even consider the fact that they may have mounted a good defense or that the offense wasn't up to par on tactics or execution.

Dogfights make the game fun.  Jaw'gfights produce nothing worthwhile.  Just ask anyone who's been stuck between **dway and **rannis.  If you insist on turning to a debate to decide who the real winner actually was, don't try and drag the whole community into your hemisphere of bulls**t.

<S> those who don't cry foul at the drop of a red flag in town, or the drop of an entire mission over an enemy field.

The establishment of horde is here, and it is fine. The game would be less fun without horde. Now the game would be more fun with a defense motivator!
 lets figure it out!



JUGgler

[Rob52240]

I think it already goes both ways, like the flip of a coin.  It would be impossible to make everything even out exactly every time.     Uncertainty keeps it fun 

[Shuffler]

Some of the people on this forum astound me. Nothing but a bunch of "aces" that think they know everything and that their way to play the game is the only correct way. You "aces" drive people away cause you argue with others to try to convince them that your way is the only way. You people are pathetic! If people like to fly in hordes then let them and don't try to convince them that they have no skill cause they fly in a "horde". Geez, if people like to make ho shots then their going to make them. No it doesn't mean that their not skilled, it means that you failed to maneuver to avoid the ho shot. You people on here are the real whiners. You few that have to try and prove to everyone that they have no skill, play the game wrong, and flying with a mission is a horde, are the truly pathetic people. Why does it matter is a pilot is "trained" or not? If they don't want to be you cant force them. It's their $15. Go ahead and start the flaming.

Opps looks like you clicked on a thread that doesn't interest you. Or maybe you want to be a mod.

The boards have a lot of points of view. Read and enjoy.

[Daddkev]

  I read this Naked!

[shiv]

I might also add the overwhelming majority of players is ending up "hording" at one point or another during a week or even during a day of AH. Pure "hordelings" are not the majority, and those alleged anti horders aren't as well.
Players are also verrrry quick with the horde tag, often it's just happening as a result of the ever fluid dynamics on a battlefield and not a result of a mission. Players do like to fly together, they do love to "win", and sometimes one particular targets is just in focus.

And since the switch time went back to 12 hours, I found myself being part of a horde quite frequently, because switching to the underdog is mostly no option anymore.

Yep, you can be in a small fight that attracts a whole bunch of friendlies and next thing you know, your're a horde monkey. Or vice-versa.

I do notice more coordinated attacks in today's single arena LW though. Just like Titanic Tuesday had a different feel to it that one day of the week, except now it's every day.

Not that it's an option to go back to multiple LW arenas, just an observation.