track-ir bug - pls HTC give a look at this

[lulu]

I saw this news right now. I will try the little program as soon as possible.

If You use the previous version, then You will noted that p47x (for example) track-ir behavior is
the opposite of f4ux or p51x ones and it's bad.  In new version things are reversed. p47x track-ir behavior
is good and f4ux or p51x is bad.

It seems to me that the lenght of z axis is reduced in a strange way.
In previous versions when i moved back my shoulders, I can saw the gauges gone far away forward
more then now.


 

[FLS]

Just noticed in the tower the X axis is jumping full left to right with a slight head movement similar to the Z axis but Yaw and Pitch are normal. X and Z both work normally in the cockpit.

[hitech]

A new test version.
I changed the way the system scales and crops from your base head point.

I think this will work as you think it should.

Download the file below into your aces high folder, and the run it directly.

NOTE THE NAME CHANGE

http://downloads.hitechcreations.com/trirtest2.exe

It is NOT an installation program , but rather simply a test executable.

HiTech


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[TheRapier]

I tried the first Tritest over the weekend. I didn't have time to go exhaustively through a lot of planes or any testing to determine the why's of the behavior.

First, overall, it is MUCH better than before. It responds to the X, Y, Z axis and with the X axis actually moving with head movement. Z axis seems kinda wierd, either not moving at all, then moving a lot and somewhat unpredictably. Y axis is the strangest of all. Head movement side to side on the X axis seems to be very predicated on Y axis height. A small change on the Y axis can limit X axis a lot as if the canopy were stepped like a ziggurat and not a smooth curve.

The strangest stuff was in changing planes. It worked well with the P51D with just some oddnesses. If for any reason I took the headset off, say to step away from the computer for a bit, on returning the view would lock strangely for a second or two, then move very notchily. This would go on for a minute or two and then smooth out, as if it was reacquiring the headset.
 
When I tried the Fw190D, it moved very strangely. The movement lagged behind actual head movement and was slower than in the pony. Then it would bounce when it reached the end, rebounding slightly backward in the direction it had come.


Strangest of all was flying the P47M. I would center the view and then fly along looking around. After about a minute of looking around, my view would gradually sink down until I could barely look over the lower edge of the cockpit and my virtual head was lower than the bottome of the gunsight. I'd re-center and it would pop back up, only to gradually lower as I looked around.

I'll try to give the new file a try somewhere during the week and report back.

[FLS]

Looks good Hitech. Just a little issue with the pitch down. I can look straight up but when I look down I get to about 45 degrees down and the view snaps to the rear. I can't look straight down. Everything else is fine.

Edit: Tested again with the default profile and everything is fine. I could look down before with my usual profile, so far I don't know what the difference is, but trirtest2 seems to have fixed every bug I was seeing before.

Edit2: I made my pitch down setting more aggressive instead of mirroring pitch up and I can look straight down again with my usual profile after this adjustment.

[Vinkman]

A new test version.
I changed the way the system scales and crops from your base head point.

I think this will work as you think it should.

Download the file below into your aces high folder, and the run it directly.

NOTE THE NAME CHANGE

http://downloads.hitechcreations.com/trirtest2.exe

It is NOT an installation program , but rather simply a test executable.

HiTech

Is this program just to test it for a later incorperation into AH, or is it the fix?   

[FLS]

It's a test of the bug fix. When it's ready it will be in an update.

[Vinkman]

It's a test of the bug fix. When it's ready it will be in an update.

Roger thanks FLS. 

[LCAMerciful]

I finally got a chance to test tritest2.exe tonight.  I can't say that I flew every plane but it worked just fine.

Except in the C47.  You can look up/down and left/right but that's it... as if you were strapped tightly into the seat.

Other planes may still be buggy too but all the only one that I flew that was buggy was the goon.

[lulu]

Tritest2 works well on this families: spit, p51, f4u.

I will try others families as soon as possible.


 

[TheRapier]

Finally got a chance to try the TriTest2 file this weekend.

Good news:
1. P51D is nearly perfect. Functionality is mosty restored though I seem to have some difficulty looking straight up. Might be the TIR settings, I mess with that and see.
2. Much better with the other planes I tried with some anomalies, see below. Niki seemed spot on as well.

Not quite as good:
1. Seems to impact frame rates more than it used to, particularly in high traffic. FR drops from 60 to 30.
2. When you first start the program, within a couple minutes it will do an alt-tab on its own and pop you to the desktop but AH is running.
3. Seems to be a higher incidence of host connection lost than usual.
4. P47M view directions are perfect but for some reason the speed is off, slower than in the Pony. It was also hard to get oriented forward, the horizontal plane was tilted. Also trying to look down at the instrument panel would be read as leaning forward which would put you into the sight.

Hope that helps!

[lulu]

My system is slower then repier one - i suppose.

In fm2 It works.

I think that the impact on frame rate is dued to the traffic more then track-ir rescaling.
I did not experince any alt-tab neither on internet connection.

In p47 family there is a little problem (z-axes rescaling?) but the situation
is much, much better then in past time. The problem is as posted on: March 26, 2012, 11:23:21 AM
by: TheRapier" But as i said is now a minimal  thing.  I think that this problem comes from the fact that the cockpits
have different lenght and seats.

I think that It would be better to have a track-ir scaling function for each planes and not one for all planes.

 

[LCAMerciful]

Finally got a chance to try the TriTest2 file this weekend.

1. Seems to impact frame rates more than it used to, particularly in high traffic. FR drops from 60 to 30.
2. When you first start the program, within a couple minutes it will do an alt-tab on its own and pop you to the desktop but AH is running.
3. Seems to be a higher incidence of host connection lost than usual.
4. P47M view directions are perfect but for some reason the speed is off, slower than in the Pony. It was also hard to get oriented forward, the horizontal plane was tilted. Also trying to look down at the instrument panel would be read as leaning forward which would put you into the sight.

Hope that helps!

1. I noticed no difference in FR when running tritest2 as opposed to running the original program.
2. I had no issues with it alt-tabbing me out of the game while running tritest2.
3. I was on for several hours and didn't get dropped once.
4. I don't recall having any issues while flying the P47M however I only flew it for one uneventful sortie.

TheRapier I have to wonder if you have some kind of malware running in the background causing your first three issues?  Those seem like classic symptoms of being infected.

[Vinkman]

New patch in the game for the Track IR was a big improvement. this combined with the head box upgrade from the last patch had made the TrackIR feature an order of magnitude better.

Thanks for looking into it and upgrading it HiTech. 

[Chauncy]

My TrackIR is centering me close and low.

When I move my head back and up a little to get a wider view and hit the f10 button I get head position saved.

But then as soon as I hit the auto center button, poof, back to low and close.

Grrrrr.

When I turn off TrackIR completely and hit the defaut facing my position is just where it was when I hit the f10.
Now, until the patch on April 02, 2012 this was true for when I hit the TrackIR auto center.  It would go to where I set my front facing f10, but no longer.

grrrr.

Chauncy