Ki-84 Pilot's Manual - Translation Help Needed

[vafiii]

I'm not totally fluent in Japanese but I'm quite sure Page 3 is a recipe for Miso Soup. And page 4 lists a procedure for ramming your plane into an enemy carrier.

[Karnak]

I'm not totally fluent in Japanese but I'm quite sure Page 3 is a recipe for Miso Soup. And page 4 lists a procedure for ramming your plane into an enemy carrier.

The Ki-84 was not used for kamikaze attacks.  It was too valuable as a competitive fighter to waste that way.

[PFactorDave]

The Ki-84 was not used for kamikaze attacks.  It was too valuable as a competitive fighter to waste that way.

Precisely...

But he might be right about the soup recipe...   

[Mitsu]

Currently I'm working hard for new sound major update.
I'll look for it again when my crappy sound is out. 

Thanks,
Mitsu

[PFactorDave]

Currently I'm working hard for new sound major update.
I'll look for it again when my crappy sound is out. 

Thanks,
Mitsu

 

I have no idea what you just said...   

[ink]

The Ki-84 was not used for kamikaze attacks.  It was too valuable as a competitive fighter to waste that way.

yup

they were used as Kamikaze escorts...and Bomber attackers.....I believe that was there main role, Bomber intercept.

[Ruah]

I was used to escort kamikaze planes to the ships - more experienced pilots would protect the student pilots.

As for the translation, I will have it done late august - till then i am translating quite a few other things that are equally convoluted.

[tunnelrat]

The Ki-84 was not used for kamikaze attacks.  It was too valuable as a competitive fighter to waste that way.

Incorrect.

http://wgordon.web.wesleyan.edu/kamikaze/monuments/miyakonojo/index.htm

[Gianlupo]

Definitely interested in the outcome of your efforts guys! Ki-84 was my favourite ride, I'd love to read the original POH, sooner or later; please, keep us posted with your progresses! 

[busa]

Hello, this is busa01.

I am somewhat busy therefore the submission process of the skins of AH is changing now.
When it is completed, I may also be able to help this work.

Incidentally, flight performance of Ki84 of AH is based on this pilot handbook.

And probably for you, there is an unexpected thing.
You had read a part of this pilot handbook.
Because, "INTERMIM REPORT NO.2 (Project No.NAD-25) R.J.Groseclose, Captain, and Air Corps" are the things which translated it.

Thank you read my poor english.

[EagleDNY]

Have to bump this a bit because I am interested in seeing if there has been any progress made on the translations.

[nrshida]

No updates yet. Ruah / Busa were recently enquiring about the genealogy of the document because apparently there is another version.

I'm especially interested in the information pertaining to the flaps, one book suggests there was a third setting of 53 degrees for landing but I cannot verify this in other literature and can find no photos of flaps deployed beyond 35 degrees, not that there are that many pictures of the Hayate in the first place.

[Ruah]

Yah, I was working on the trans when busa wrote to me about the version shida posted.

I have been working on it but wanted to go easy since I know shida has had more important things to do.

[EagleDNY]

Glad people are still working on this (as time allows).  I fly the Ki-84 a lot and would love to read the actual manual for it.

That said, the US did capture one and do testing on it.   Does anyone have a link to the report or a copy of it?   

[Ruah]

that report is available online and that particular plane is the only surviving example of the KI-84 left today.  Noteworthy is that it was repaired after capture and the tests used high octane fuel.  The poor testing methods of the Japanese towards the end of the war and the relative lack of concrete information is a large reason why the KI 84 is sometimes said to be modeled incorrectly - namely that it was a fair bit faster and a bit more durable in the dive as it is modeled in AH.  Thankfully though we do get those amazing butterfly flaps.

It was actually flying well into the 70s/80s when it was sold to a Japanese museum and has been moved around Japan since then.  It currently lives in the Kamikaze museum in Chiran.  That KI 84 has been mistreated by the Japanese museum owners really, it spent awhile outside as a display, its wings were cut and re-assembled badly at one point. . . really a great shame.