It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.

[bustr]

HOing, runway picking, hanger vulching, 600 yard parting shots against porr defencless runners. Willy didn't realise he was designing the ultimate CAP'd airfeild terror plane for the average Aces High player in a hoard 70 years ago.

Who knows? Maybe introducing the 410 will spur a renaissance in mission planning that isn't a gazzilion ponies rocket vulching after dropping everything on the field. But, that could also be the long distances between fields these days and the amount of time players want to spend in transit versus their personal tollerance for getting stuck low in a fight. Possibly dieing 60 seconds after getting there knowing how long it will take to get back at the fun. So staying higher on the return trip and looking only for easy picks to save them the loss of fun and another transit time debt.

Almost seems like we spend most of our time now days getting to a fight. I know we have unlimited lives but, those transit times kind of colors fights with a sense of limited lives versus amount of fun at any given time. The center island on OZKANSAS has excellent transit times to fight in the center of 1/2 sector from all 3 airfeilds. While the airfeilds are at 1 sector from each other. Or do we need the transit times to fool ourselves with the sense of false purpose that most of this game is mindless furballs?

Maybe this is the plane that will get some of the newer pony "save my kester with speed alt monkies" looking into a different style of fighting. After all "It Got Gigggg Guns".

[icepac]

I saw the shell drop chart on another thread but can't find it.

[Devil 505]

Actually, I noticed that... but only after I already reported several shape errors on the current screenshots. I didn't want to seem like I was pestering/nitpicking, so I didn't comment about it. I also can't fully see that area on the one screenshot that shows that gun loadout because of the muzzle flashes. Maybe they already did this?

On the standard plane you get that clear panel. On 2-guns-in-bomb-bay setups you still can see it. However for the 4-gun setups they almost always covered it with a metal panel because the massive amounts of flash distracted and/or blinded the pilot slightly.

I does not appear that this plate is in place on the AH model. The lower glass is mostly obscured by the muzzle flash in this pic:

But you can see the dark area of the cockpit interior through the glass. Looks the same as the front on the BK5 screenie:

[bustr]

What, you guys don't live with pocket copies in your trousers of:

Handbuch der Flugzeug
 Boardwaffenmunition
     1936 - 1945

Or the 410 armerors handbook for the 2 - MK103 and BK5 versions?

Did you know the 2 - MK103 were set parallel with no horizintal convergence to an IP point with the Revi line of sight at 800m? The higest point in the trajectory above the Revi LoS was 3 ft at 500m. Wonder if we are getting the 2 - MG131 and 2 - MG151\15 forward firing version?

The BK 5 with 2 - MG151\20 was set for 900m with the highest point above Revi LoS of 4 feet at 580m.
The BK 5 with 2- MG131 and 2 - MG151\15 was set for 800m with the highest point above Revi LoS of 2 feet at 600m.

In all of the above versions of the 410 all forward firing guns in pairs are set parallel with no horizontal convergence point. In both the MG 131 and MG151\15 are both locked to (500m MG131) and (700m MG151\15). That definitly gives you some funky trajectories. Wonder if the 13mm and 15mm will be loaded with an AP-HE cluge? The MG151\20 had it's own scaled down version of the MK103's round with 18.6 grams of the same explosive. About 1\4 of a standard stick grenade.

[W7LPNRICK]

Homely plane but a nice skin.

Everyones says it's UUUUgly...? I think it's a good looking plane, & pilot visibility! WOW! Look at all that glass...   

[thomace]

 The 410 was a new class of a/c known as the interceptor...purely built to shoot down buffs...worthless in a dogfight. They'd avoid dogfights altogether in "real life"...anyone who was in the Navy when the F-14 was a front line unit (like me) can relate...F-14 was huge...designed to carry the Phoenix missile...a lot of the "Top Gun" movie was "Hollywood". Now...all that being typed...I would fully expect to see it vulching and dogfighting in MA...

[Krusty]

The 410 was a new class of a/c known as the interceptor...purely built to shoot down buffs...worthless in a dogfight. They'd avoid dogfights altogether in "real life"...

Every thing you just typed needs to be ignored by everyone else on this forum.

[morfiend]

Every thing you just typed needs to be ignored by everyone else on this forum.

 I actually agree with you Krusty......      Hopefully Mace wont see his post lest he tears him a new one..

 Bustr, the MG151/15 guns did not see service in the 410's,it's referenced to in the early A models and in the 210's but I'm positive it was never used on the 410. Going off memory here so it's possible to prove me wrong....    IIRC the MG151/15 had a very good muzzleV,higher than the Mk103,not quite as high as BK5.


     

[Tupac]

I will be gone for 8 days starting monday, so I bet the 410 will come out on Monday.

[bustr]

OK morf I'll burn my 1944 Me410 manuals.

[Seanaldinho]

I will be gone for 8 days starting monday, so I bet the 410 will come out on Monday.

No silly updates come out on Wednesdays! 

[Krusty]

Oh lighten up a tad, Bustr

He's right. The 15mm were never used. Sometimes pilot handbooks cover new weapons that never make it (they are printed in anticipation) or test weapons that were long phased out, or even just possible weapons that were never carried. I'm sure some P-40 handbooks make reference to inboard 20mm setups -- because they came from the factory capable of carrying them and the mountings were part of the hardware.

Just chalk it up to one of those quirk references that never really made it into practice, is all. 

[bustr]

Common. it was my first one liner in a longggg time.

[Krusty]

Well if it makes ya feel better, by the power vested in me by Thor, the Easter Bunny, and Kate Beckinsale, I hereby award you a "do-over" on your one liner. 

[morfiend]

Krusty,

  It was an inside joke between Bustr and myself,he only offered to burn it because he knows I cant read it.

 It's a shame though,I'd like to see 1 LW plane with the MG151/15mm guns from what I've read it was a flat shooting gun but it's explosive charge left some to be desired.