How Chuwie ruined the game today

[DMGOD]

I love how people justify whining and crying about Missions/Hoards and mission planning. I also love how people shape thier own definitions of what "Lameness" only to fit thier gripe only because they have complete and utter distain for orgainzation of a planned mission and cannot counter a Mission or Hoard as is also called. Its just too easy to whine and call the others "Lame" and roll eyes because they work together and fly organized large missions.  theses actually get me     

Good try though on the Iraq Slam by the way....the point is Missions are effective in real world as well as AH and you are not fighting the enemy to be best friends so you dont get a timeout to go run to a daddy figure to have have him fix all simply because you think the enemy isnt playing fair and beating you. Last time I checked this was in fact a Combat Sim Game.

Simply trying to brand what is or what is not lame speaks volumes to your motive 
 

   

lmfao organised? again you can't be serious! how many lancs and they can't drop a single vehicle field. 4 Hangers and 20 something lancs are incapable of dropping them. Man thats organization worth bragging about. <S> Iraqvet enjoy spending ur 15 a month being a lemming.

[Kalain]

why even have opponents then? we can just all join 1 team and roll maps!

It can never come to that, regardless of what you guys fear. Having your entire country in one place at one time is immensely vulnerable to split pushing. You would leave 0 defenders or not enough to stop numerous pushes. 1 Person by themselves can take an undefended base in 20-30 mins and 20 people doing that separately would take bases faster than a horde could with resistance.

The only time I've seen it work is a last base needed push. It part of the reason bish lose a lot of bases is because we have too many people in one area.

[Iraqvet]

lmfao organised? again you can't be serious! how many lancs and they can't drop a single vehicle field. 4 Hangers and 20 something lancs are incapable of dropping them. Man thats organization worth bragging about. <S> Iraqvet enjoy spending ur 15 a month being a lemming.

I will and do enjoy my 15 dollars a month    I love that all your AH experience is watered down to a single mission experince from the Bish. It think what upsets you the most is that fact that the large mission failed to level a field yet we still captured the field and won the map by having backup redundant cons on "Clean UP" duty so yes I do call that effective oraginzation and planning on our part. Likewise we all have seen such inability to take out a field with larger missions on your side with so called orgaized missions. Only diffrence is I do not label you or others as lame, or hoard or....whatever the term may be for the day because you cant get the job done or you are winning the war against us.

Yall whine that a base does not need to be leveled to be taken....yet you cry when it is. You cant have it both ways. Truth of the matter is bases can be taken both ways and and are done so all the time both ways...seems to me you want to define oraginzation only to what you see fitting at the current moment to fit your argument. 

[kvuo75]

It can never come to that, regardless of what you guys fear. Having your entire country in one place at one time is immensely vulnerable to split pushing. You would leave 0 defenders or not enough to stop numerous pushes. 1 Person by themselves can take an undefended base in 20-30 mins and 20 people doing that separately would take bases faster than a horde could with resistance.

The only time I've seen it work is a last base needed push. It part of the reason bish lose a lot of bases is because we have too many people in one area.

maybe you missed my joke.

horde "teamwork" is numbers.  if everyone joined one team, they could take bases quicker than normal. they would never have to fight another person, just buildings and auto-ack.

[Debrody]

I remember when the KN could take a small airfield defended by 4, and do it with only 6 pilots, all in eny25+ rides.
There your awesome "organization" goes IV.
No whine, no crying. Just a disappointed observation of the total lameness.
"Fergi"
 

Even this guy knows it... if you listen to fools, the mob rules.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-hluUap4qg

[oTRALFZo]

lmfao organised? again you can't be serious! how many lancs and they can't drop a single vehicle field. 4 Hangers and 20 something lancs are incapable of dropping them. Man thats organization worth bragging about. <S> Iraqvet enjoy spending ur 15 a month being a lemming.

Don't argue with him DM, you will go nowhere. He is in his stage of AH that he thinks he is a crusader, breaking new ground justifying tactics that have been going on for years in online gaming.

Although our forum careers say otherwise, I know you and I have been playing for a significant amount of time to realize that hording and mission planning is very typical for just about any pixelated pilots career here in AH. The question is when do they get bored and seek a higher challenge?

Cruel circle of life...He will venture off eventually from the horde while 2 or 3 will take his place. Lets just sit back and laugh

[Hap]

Like I said only way to realy stop a horder IMHO is to pork thier ords and troops, 2-3 guys to a base, 

[Iraqvet]

I remember when the KN could take a small airfield defended by 4, and do it with only 6 pilots, all in eny25+ rides.
There your awesome "organization" goes IV.
No whine, no crying. Just a disappointed observation of the total lameness.
"Fergi"
 

Even this guy knows it... if you listen to fools, the mob rules.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-hluUap4qg

I understand Debrody but it is the fact that some wish to paint a picture that there is nothing now "But" large Massive missions to take all bases when that is not the case. I can roll onto a base and take it sometimes simply by myself, or with 2-3 men when its defended. The point is missions are run both ways, with high numbers and low numbers. Both are sucessful.....yet its only considered cool if you take a base with a toothpick, a plastic bottle and a box of depends, and a rope, anything more than that is considered a Hoard.

I think what gets lost in this is the fact that people DO enjoy participating in missions because of the oraganization and fun of it and yes each mission is not always gonna be sucessful.....people work together for a common goal and enjoy thier teamates.  The fact that a blanket type statement of "Lame" is appled to most Missions simply because people choose to make a mission to up and take a base or fly together is disturbing. 

It would be just as easy to for me or others to call out these people who swoon away for the 1vs1 combat because they think it is the ONLY part of the game that should exsist for every single enemy encounter they have or.....its deemed unfair in thier eyes, but I do not label them I might have my own beliefs about it but it is thier 15 dollars a month if they wanna play 1vs1 all the time an arena where there are 100's of players battling it out for a map win thats thier choice. It is however hard to listen to them justify bashing and labeling any organized mission that ups in numbers more than 5 as lame.....while they sit, or fly and pursue thier 1vs1 elsewhere on map and complain about why they lost the war/map yet they unwilling do do anything about it except complain. Yet back to my point its the players choice to do what they want in a GAME they pay money to have fun in. Its just sad that people have to resort to labeling others to make themselves feel better in a game none the less.   

[Iraqvet]

Don't argue with him DM, you will go nowhere. He is in his stage of AH that he thinks he is a crusader, breaking new ground justifying tactics that have been going on for years in online gaming.

Although our forum careers say otherwise, I know you and I have been playing for a significant amount of time to realize that hording and mission planning is very typical for just about any pixelated pilots career here in AH. The question is when do they get bored and seek a higher challenge?

Cruel circle of life...He will venture off eventually from the horde while 2 or 3 will take his place. Lets just sit back and laugh

Such distain for any type of Organization or Missions.......I hope that Seeeking of a Higher Challenge is working out for ya because you sure dont sound too happy and you takin jabs at people who work together so wtg on that one.   

[DMGOD]

You just don't get it do you? It's not the lol "missions" its the type of missions that go out of the way to avoid combat that the majority of us have a problem with

[Iraqvet]

You just don't get it do you? It's not the lol "missions" its the type of missions that go out of the way to avoid combat that the majority of us have a problem with

LOL oh no I do get it you wish to put a title on the type of missions that go out as being unfair, unjust, lame...etc etc.  The bones of the issue have always been you wish to control how players play the game, and Im telling you its not gonna happen no matter how much you throw a fit about it. 

Its called free will. Some wish to avoid being detected and be stealthy, some wish fly in large missions. some wish to only have 1 vs 1 fights, some wish to bomb, some wish to GV, who cares its a game they pay money to play as they wish and have fun......'Not Money YOU Pay Too Make Others Play The Way YOU Want Them Too'....that concept just does not fly, and so sweet dreams are made of these.

My point is it is not up too YOU or ME or anybody else for that matter to decide what is lame...or put a nasty title on that player/or group of players simply because they are not playing the game as WE 'Wish' they would. 

[DMGOD]

I don't wish to control anybody frankly I could careless what the lemmings want to do. I am however entiteled to my own opinion and I think their/ your style is lame. why play a game designed for combat if you are going to spend the majority of the time trying to avoid combat

[Nathan60]

So at this point were just downing each other's opinions  back and forth and there is  no real discussIN?

[Debrody]

Hey man...
ever seen a true dogfighter complaining about the war was lost? Couse i have never...
You talk about working together. In a 100 player mission, the chance that you can even hit something (either its an other player or just a static object) is very low since 4 lanc sets can completely flatten a medium airfield. Ergo 70-80 from that 100 wont do anything, wont see any enemy to shoot at, and will only cry on the single 262 that what a fluckin dweeb he is. And when they succeed, he can think that the WTGs are for him couse he was there, even tho he did absolutely nothing productive. Should i care? Nope. Unless there is someone up to defend how awesome it is and try to tell us that 1v1s, 2v2s, 5v5s or 10v10s are only for the minority. Couse an air combat game isnt about air combat. Eh dangit. Im just running my mouth again trying to change the unchangable.

To sum it: Do i think 100 people missions against defenseless targets are lame? Yes. Am i disappointed over seeing this? Ya. Do i think 10v10, or 30v30 is just as much fun as an 1v1? Yup. Do i play to interact with other players? Aye. Do i think avoiding each other is pointless? Of course. Do i belive in the fair fight? Still yes.
Will i change my mind? Nope.

my 2 cents.

[BaldEagl]

Woohoo!  I think this is the longest stretch of contiguous posts in this thread without Iraqvet responding!