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Re: change to strats?
« Reply #150 on: September 02, 2012, 01:06:13 PM »
How about if HTC created a long range radar sited in the strats to give defenders more of a chance to intercept? Give it maybe a 30-40 mile range and make it a lot tougher than field radar.
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Re: change to strats?
« Reply #151 on: September 02, 2012, 01:34:37 PM »
How about if HTC created a long range radar sited in the strats to give defenders more of a chance to intercept? Give it maybe a 30-40 mile range and make it a lot tougher than field radar.
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Re: change to strats?
« Reply #152 on: September 02, 2012, 01:37:33 PM »
How about if HTC created a long range radar sited in the strats to give defenders more of a chance to intercept? Give it maybe a 30-40 mile range and make it a lot tougher than field radar.

Bar dar works great for this.  I've found Snailman's B29s a few times thanks to bar dar.


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Re: change to strats?
« Reply #153 on: September 02, 2012, 04:08:36 PM »
See rule #4
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Re: change to strats?
« Reply #154 on: September 02, 2012, 04:27:02 PM »
Now that the door has been opened to make bombing strats worth the trouble, it's still not worth the trouble for fighter fans to defend them.

The best example was a big long furball I was in for hours friday night to take A20 from A16. Very few players were willing to stop furballing once they knew bombers were hitting their strats just a sector away from the furball and their 163. They were more interested in flying 163 to A20 to furball.

So with the door opened to the slippery slope leading down to strategic bottelnecks, here is one thing that can be done to get fighter pilots interested in protecting their status quo. Put a 163\262\Tempest\F4u-4\spit14 factory in the strats. As it's destruction percentage goes up, so does the price for 163\262\Tempest\F4u-4\spit14 for that country until non are available. And as the resupply effort takes place the perk price reduces back to normal with each resupply or some such formula. Throw a few bombers into this while we are at it. Even get so nasty as to engage a perk price on P51D, D9, Ta152 and K4 when the perked fighter factory is 100% down.

You could even get the tank guys up in fighters or resupplying the strat if you include their pet rides in the same process. I suppose a modifyer for ENY will have to work with it.

If the HQ and strat are now high value bombing targets, it's logical to give them long range radar to assist in defending them. Create a secondary clipboard map that only shows the long range radar coverage for the HQ and strat. The germans watched the allied bomber hoards group up over england and all the way to their targets on the continent if I'm not mistaken. Restrict this radar to only showing planes above 10-15k but, with a long radius. Bombers that try to stay just below this most of the way to the HQ or strat will leave themselves open to interception.

But, if you sit back and look at this from a 50,000 foot perspective. The bomber guys will be controlling everyones game happiness by forcing them into fighters or on resupply runs in the hope that they can get their favorite perked ride at a resonable price before some jerk with a B29 screws their only saturday in the last month that they have time to play the game.

So maybe as your bomber guys destroy another country's perk plane factory your own price for them goes down untill they are free or something like that. At least you would make the arena an intersting place if 3 bomber squads worked together from the 3 different countires and 100% dropped all 3 perk ride factorys. Hundreds of noobs in 262 all over the arena in littel hoards untill the first resupply train or players got to the strats.
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Re: change to strats?
« Reply #155 on: September 02, 2012, 05:11:56 PM »
Now that the door has been opened to make bombing strats worth the trouble, it's still not worth the trouble for fighter fans to defend them.

Nope.  Not at 35,000ft in the MA.

Give me an individual dar dot for any airplane over 20k and I'll come play with the lot of you. 

Otherwise; spending an hour climbing to the moon and chasing dar bars across multiple sectors, in search of a fight, isn't my idea of a good time.

Frankly, I have much more fun upping from a vulched field.

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Re: change to strats?
« Reply #156 on: September 02, 2012, 05:59:56 PM »
The strats are still all consolidated together.  There seemed to be a  more strategic approach when they were all separated. 
This of course is just my thoughts and opinions of the strats placement.
I'm happy to see that HTC is even working on the strats technicalities.

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Re: change to strats?
« Reply #157 on: September 03, 2012, 05:30:10 AM »
moin

give it a time, im sure we will see hardcore strat devenders too as we have now hardcore strat atteckers now. there are alot of people arund uping a 410 to fly for houers to find some sneaky bombers, thats the way thay fight there fight. the others are not realy disturbet in there way of fight.
and if a big darbar goes to the strat always a big group of defenders is searching them, its always a big fun.

so its realy a good change, because all kind playstyles winn, normaly everyone should be happy?!

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Re: change to strats?
« Reply #158 on: September 03, 2012, 06:19:22 AM »
Spending hours in a 410 only to find a straight-flying bomber, not much fun in my book.
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Re: change to strats?
« Reply #159 on: September 03, 2012, 07:08:17 AM »
moin

you dont need to do that, there are other players for that job in the comunity, maybe your interests are in other aereas.

maybe you will up if the 410 spots a large mission and gives you the heading and altitude.

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Re: change to strats?
« Reply #160 on: September 03, 2012, 07:24:07 AM »
Spending hours in a 410 only to find a straight-flying bomber, not much fun in my book.

It is in mine, and it don't take hours.
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Re: change to strats?
« Reply #161 on: September 03, 2012, 07:33:22 AM »
This HQ puff ack is deadly to fighters, but harmless to bombers.

Please fix it.
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Re: change to strats?
« Reply #162 on: September 03, 2012, 07:46:31 AM »
Allright, Chris and Scherf, if you think so... i just cant get the logic behind that. True, my brain has only a handful of working cells remaining...
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Re: change to strats?
« Reply #163 on: September 03, 2012, 08:01:00 AM »
hi debrody,

the logic is that in game are a lot of diverent interest and playstiles. These change ofers a new playground for people who don t like furbals or base taking stuff much. now the people which like to do strategig stuff are happy too.  thats one of the best things in aces high, the wide variety in how you can play the game.

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Re: change to strats?
« Reply #164 on: September 03, 2012, 08:23:25 AM »
The strats are still all consolidated together.  There seemed to be a  more strategic approach when they were all separated. 
This of course is just my thoughts and opinions of the strats placement.
I'm happy to see that HTC is even working on the strats technicalities.

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I too would like to see the factories spread out more.
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