There's wind now?

[Lusche]

Having wind over 20k is fine - let the heavies carpet bomb from up there.  They shouldn't have pinpoint accuracy from the safety of that alt. 

The layer above 10k is a bad idea, IMO.

 

[TOMCAT21]

 

[bozon]

Having wind over 20k is fine - let the heavies carpet bomb from up there.  They shouldn't have pinpoint accuracy from the safety of that alt. 

The layer above 10k is a bad idea, IMO.

and here you have the solution.

Also HTC, please make the wind layer include a built-in gradient. a 20 mph jump in airspeed is terrible if you are in the middle of hard maneuvering - flaps suddenly auto-retracting, planes close to stall go over the edge, etc. Force a minimum spacing of the layers and a layer defined at some alt affect the wind speeds at +-2000 feet using a linear interpolation would be enough.

[The Fugitive]

There you go, someone has done all the work for the buff pilots. Now all you have to do is either make your approaches "upwind" or "downwind", or do a  little math using the tables below. Bombing will be a piece of cake again!  


Thus, the model is

d = v_c * sqrt(2 * h / 32) * 5280 / 3600,

where d is the distance in feet to the side of the crosshairs the bombs will hit, h is altitude above target in feet, and v_c is the mph of the crosswind component. h is your bomber altitude minus the target altitude. v_c can be obtained from the E6B under "Wind" as the "right cross" or "left cross" crosswind readings.

As an example, here is a table of d at various altitudes assuming a 5 mph crosswind. For a crosswind of v_c (i.e., other than 5 mph), you can calculate d_new as d_table * v_c / 5. Thus, if the crosswind were 10 mph, the d values would be double.
Altitude from target (feet)    Time to impact (sec)    d (feet)
5000    17.7         130
10000    25.0         183
15000    30.6       224
20000    35.4         259

[icepac]

How do you approach from downwind or upwind when there are 4 different layers with winds 90 degrees off of each other?

[Max]

Thus, the model is

d = v_c * sqrt(2 * h / 32) * 5280 / 3600,

where d is the distance in feet to the side of the crosshairs the bombs will hit, h is altitude above target in feet, and v_c is the mph of the crosswind component. h is your bomber altitude minus the target altitude. v_c can be obtained from the E6B under "Wind" as the "right cross" or "left cross" crosswind readings.

As an example, here is a table of d at various altitudes assuming a 5 mph crosswind. For a crosswind of v_c (i.e., other than 5 mph), you can calculate d_new as d_table * v_c / 5. Thus, if the crosswind were 10 mph, the d values would be double.
Altitude from target (feet)    Time to impact (sec)    d (feet)
5000    17.7         130
10000    25.0         183
15000    30.6       224
20000    35.4         259

<--- failed algebra 3x......HUH?

[ImADot]

How do you approach from downwind or upwind when there are 4 different layers with winds 90 degrees off of each other?

It sounds like wind affects dropping bombs very little compared to flying airplanes. Base your approach on your flight altitude, not what your bombs have to drop through.

[Karnak]

It sounds like wind affects dropping bombs very little compared to flying airplanes. Base your approach on your flight altitude, not what your bombs have to drop through.

Dunno.  People are saying they are missing by half the airfield.  That seems like major effects from the wind.

[bj229r]

It sounds like wind affects dropping bombs very little compared to flying airplanes. Base your approach on your flight altitude, not what your bombs have to drop through.

At 15k, they made 1k eggs miss by HALF the width of a Vbase. If what the wind does can be fairly  calculated without the need of a Cray supercomputer, should be ok

[ImADot]

Could it be because your plane was being pushed that hard to the side, and effectively making your track that far off? If your compass is showing 090, but there's a crosswind, from the left, your flight path would be something more southerly, perhaps something like 095. So even if the crosshairs were right on target, you were not tracking across the ground straight down your target line, and the bombs would fall off to the right.

[Lusche]

The arrow pointing exactly to the point where the crosshair was on release.




And the result



Bomb drift was more than three times the indestructible hangar length.

[Karnak]

I notice you're using the quad .303 tail gun. Do you find the ammo matters more than the firepower?

[Lusche]

I notice you're using the quad .303 tail gun. Do you find the ammo matters more than the firepower?

Can't tell. Have only one sortie with a combat encounter in it. I was shot down in mere seconds, but with the kind of attack the enemy fighter was doing on me, .50 cal would have made no difference.

[hitech]

The bomb sight is supposed to correct for the wind if calibrated correctly.

It sounds like there is  a bug that needs to be addressed.

HiTech

[Karnak]

Thanks for the comment, Hitech.  Nice to know where HTC's intentions on this are.