side-switching abuse

[guncrasher]

...12 hrs is way to long should be 1 hr.....

and at night it should be whenever you want.


there are ways around it...if someone switches...make it so they can not load bombs...or have it cost perks......something....

not everyone cares about the "war"

some are only loyal to the fight....and the 12 hr rule is by far the worst rule made......

I say make it so no ki84's are available


semp

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I say make it so no ki84's are available


semp

hey now...thats not even funny


 

[Hondo101]

There was a bug report from knights they couldn't resupply strats after one of their guys side switched to cause it. Now that was funny!

Now that is funny. But was it a case of them just looking at the War status page or were they actually looking at the .dt status? It would have taken them dozens of flights to bring it up, as a lot of time and effort was spent in taking them down. As anyone knows that has done much resupping at the strats, % doesn't change very fast unless you actually get to the point that the objects are coming up.

As far as the comment above about a lot of skill taking down a base and capturing it, no talent/skill needed there. When it's not defended, it's not a challenge at all. It's done all the time. And in this case the base was not defended by the Knights at all. Real shocker there, right.

Bottom line on this for everyone, no matter what country you belong to. You have guys that will game the system. And in this example you have absolutely no defense within the game. Same thing if someone jumps to spy, give away a CV task grp, give away positions, etc. If they have to stay an extended time in a jump, maybe they will have second thoughts about doing it. And of course being subject to fragging might make a difference also. Certainly would have prevented that base take. And when you have a lot of time invested in a mission and some knucklehead can wipe it out so simply and quickly, with no repercussion, then it makes you wonder if, "do I want to keep spending $15 on something that can be gamed so simply." For those that just want to furball and not do any strategic type missions, etc, well there's the DA.

[ImADot]

One map.
Switch sides as often as you want.
No perks for "winning the war".
Capture enough bases and it resets to default ownership.
Start fighting all over again - in the air, on the ground and on the sea.

 

[Sg11]

Honda! Maybe time for you to take a break from cyberspace and visit the real world a little more. I'm sure you will find a perfect world out there. No one that will game the system there.

[Hondo101]

Honda! Maybe time for you to take a break from cyberspace and visit the real world a little more. I'm sure you will find a perfect world out there. No one that will game the system there.

Seems you are taking it to a personal level, rather than contributing anything useful in solving the problems.

[Tinkles]

Seems you are taking it to a personal level, rather than contributing anything useful in solving the problems.

Making it one week wouldn't do anything.  I too in the past have made similar suggestions of increasing the time between country switches.  But a few of the none-spies got me thinking. 

Sure, if we add your system the abusers surely won't want to side-switch anymore, they will have to wait a week!  But what about those who side-switch for fun, or when one side has many against few?  Then they are stuck on that side for another week, even if they outnumber everyone or there is no action!


Even if you couldn't side switch at all, you could still tell the enemy.

.p Jetsom Yo, C242 is at 12,9 4.  Have fun.. try not to fly directly at it this time! 

While I never have 'betrayed' the bishops  ...  that doesn't stop the rest of the players from doing so    .

And.. if we took communication away PMs/200, then it would feel like an even smaller game, because we wouldn't be able to talk to the 'enemy' and "interact".


This is definitely an issue that needs to be dealt with. However, as of right now, I have no idea of how to fix it without screwing something else up.  So sadly, we have to deal with this problem until HTC can figure a way of how to deal with this problem.

Until then, it looks like the "community" will have to deter these hooligans       


Respectively,

Tinkles

 

[Sg11]

Nuff said

[1Cane]

Everyone knew what he was doing. All we had to do was re-sup the town and game the gamer

[Fonzy]

...12 hrs is way to long should be 1 hr.....

and at night it should be whenever you want.


there are ways around it...if someone switches...make it so they can not load bombs...or have it cost perks......something....

not everyone cares about the "war"

some are only loyal to the fight....and the 12 hr rule is by far the worst rule made......

.  Well said sir!  Winning the war goes to the hoard
  And now that the kiddies are out of school it's only going to get worse.  Most of the "side-switching abusers" have a second system, and a shade anyway.  The fight is always more prevalent than some dweebs who wanna bomb empty out houses lol. As for me, I'll continue my hiatus until school starts up again, and flying conditions deteriorate .

[guncrasher]

you can participate in a horde without having any bombs or rockets. I remember when I first joined 7 years ago we would come into a town with only 110's cannons and level it.

one more thing I do remember was a certain squad that would not participate in a horde, but would defend the base the horde had just taken.  and this was back in the day when the bishops would roll base after base late at night or early morning when vdallas was still around.

you dont have to be in the middle of the horde to be part of the horde.  it's like saying I dont vulch, but I do kill airplanes that are near the end of the runway.

semp

[MrRiplEy[H]]

OMG classic! 

First you do your best to cripple the opposing sides gameplay by rolling strats with your overwhelming numbers, then cry when someone cripples YOUR efforts

I'd say that was poetic justice and wtg to whoever did it! 

[Bruv119]

Now that is funny. But was it a case of them just looking at the War status page or were they actually looking at the .dt status? It would have taken them dozens of flights to bring it up, as a lot of time and effort was spent in taking them down. As anyone knows that has done much resupping at the strats, % doesn't change very fast unless you actually get to the point that the objects are coming up.

As far as the comment above about a lot of skill taking down a base and capturing it, no talent/skill needed there. When it's not defended, it's not a challenge at all. It's done all the time. And in this case the base was not defended by the Knights at all. Real shocker there, right.

Bottom line on this for everyone, no matter what country you belong to. You have guys that will game the system. And in this example you have absolutely no defense within the game. Same thing if someone jumps to spy, give away a CV task grp, give away positions, etc. If they have to stay an extended time in a jump, maybe they will have second thoughts about doing it. And of course being subject to fragging might make a difference also. Certainly would have prevented that base take. And when you have a lot of time invested in a mission and some knucklehead can wipe it out so simply and quickly, with no repercussion, then it makes you wonder if, "do I want to keep spending $15 on something that can be gamed so simply." For those that just want to furball and not do any strategic type missions, etc, well there's the DA.

maybe if all the bish weren't holding hands being such a great team/horde   they could have upped a fighter and killed the guys defenseless goon.

amusing though!

[Latrobe]

There's so much hatred for people who switch sides. I'm a side switcher because of 2 things.

1. There is no fight on the country I'm currently on, but there is a fight between the other two countries.
2. I have friends on the other countries that I love to fly with.

I'm one of the most unloyal players there is. When I switch sides I don't help the side I was just on, I go and kill them all. Most the time I was just busy killing most of my now green friends just a few minutes ago. The 12 hour rule is already annoying enough, I really don't want to see some of the idea flying around in this thread added to that.



If HTC added a penalty for strats retreating then people would fight more for zone bases instead of switching sides to force it to retreat.

[thedoom26]

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