Manned Gun = Man dead

[pervert]

I would like all manned guns to be counted as a death if they are destroyed with a player using one, not that I consider them a great threat it just seems combat should involve a chance of death and quite a few see this as a way of avoiding combat which is in turn bad for gameplay ie combat in a combat sim.

I wouldn't want it counted as a landable kill for the guy in the plane shooting it though.

[TDeacon]

I would like all manned guns to be counted as a death if they are destroyed with a player using one, not that I consider them a great threat it just seems combat should involve a chance of death and quite a few see this as a way of avoiding combat which is in turn bad for gameplay ie combat in a combat sim.

I wouldn't want it counted as a landable kill for the guy in the plane shooting it though.

FYI, I don't believe that they give you perk points for kills obtained when using a manned gun, so it is treated differently in a number of ways. 

MH

[caldera]

A vulcher got a little greedy and got his just desserts.  I love when that happens. 

[waystin2]

So you are saying that if you destroy a manned gun while in a manned gun you would like it to count as a death?  Is that even possible?  Maybe CV to CV group.  Ah,  -1

[pervert]

FYI, I don't believe that they give you perk points for kills obtained when using a manned gun, so it is treated differently in a number of ways. 

MH

I have to make the point that if they are sitting in a gun they aren't participating in the main theme of this game aircombat I've lost count of the number of times I have been at an enemy field on my own and 4+ players would rather sit in a manned gun and not get anywhere near hitting me for 10-15 minutes than up a plane there or at another field, its true they do serve a purpose but I seem them used to the extreme in the MA.

I also have to make the point that I get hit by manned ack once in a blue moon, thats not the annoying part, its the increasingly stale gameplay that seems to be driven by not participating in combat, do I really want to spend 10 minutes flying to a field on my own for a load of guys to sit and shoot at me in a manned gun? ermm no 

[Slade]

+1

[Aspen]

Wouldn't bother me if it counted as a death, but I fail to see how someone shooting at someone else is considered "avoiding combat"?  You mean air to air combat?

[pervert]

Wouldn't bother me if it counted as a death, but I fail to see how someone shooting at someone else is considered "avoiding combat"?  You mean air to air combat?

Well think about it, if 2 people engaged in combat to the death and one could not die it would be a pretty pointless thing. I agree completely with having manned guns I just think in Aces High they are used as a way to avoid death.

[Lusche]

It wouldn't change anything but the stats page, as a death in a manned gun had no impact of any of the AH scoring categories.

[DarkHawk]

I would change if a manned gun is destroyed the player does not land any kills, while in that gun
dhawk

[caldera]

I would change if a manned gun is destroyed the player does not land any kills, while in that gun
dhawk

It would be ok with me if there was no way to "land" kills in the field gun and even if you could be "killed" in one. 
Fighters that don't like it when people are in guns probably have the field capped (with friends).  If you hover over the field, then it is no wonder people don't want to lift.  Why become a statistic to whichever BnZ tardling wins the lottery on you?  Getting tag-team BnZ-ed is not a fight at all.

Stay away from the field and A: people will take off and B: you won't get hit by a field gun.

BTW, I wish every gun on the field was a mannable 40mm quad Bofors mount. 

[Tank-Ace]

Don't let them "land" kills, since all they do essentially is let up off the trigger. They don't "land", they don't RTB, they didn't move an inch.

I don't think it should count as a death, since they're so fundamentally different from anything else in the game, but they shouldn't be able to land kills either.

[Tinkles]

Don't let them "land" kills, since all they do essentially is let up off the trigger. They don't "land", they don't RTB, they didn't move an inch.

I don't think it should count as a death, since they're so fundamentally different from anything else in the game, but they shouldn't be able to land kills either.

That's harsh.

I think in order for this wish to happen, as I've asked before I'll say it again. Perhaps having the G S or F (Gun Ship or Field) Category have a small perk count to it. Then use those perks to man those purdy quad 88mms/37mms at the strats. Which would be usable for battleships later on (sort of like perked ords, but for battleships, so you want the 8"? Then pay this much of G S or F perks).

Then we can allow deaths for the G S or F, but right now we get no reward from them. Yet everything else we do. We have these better weapons at the strats, and even on the trains there are weapons. So why can't we access them?

It would be nice to have access to these things. I know alot of you "PLANE ONLY" people won't agree, but seriously, why not allow it? Just like portable artillery.


+1 to wish if what I said happens. -1 otherwise.

It does take skill to aim with the 88. If it did not, then anyone could point and click.  I find it interesting that you all boldly mock these guns, when they are quite useful and have saved bases from being captured, on all sides.

Tinkles

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[Chalenge]

Insanity (def) (2): Repeating the same request after your request has been dashed to pieces and to have been proven to be an agenda wish.

[Tinkles]

Insanity (def) (2): Repeating the same request after your request has been dashed to pieces and to have been proven to be an agenda wish.

How is it an agenda wish 

No one gave me a logical reason as to why it shouldn't be added. They just said in essence that they didn't like it, and thus because they didn't like it or wouldn't use it, that it shouldn't be added to the game.

Also, Yak-3 was asked for many times, and we finally got it . Doesn't hurt anyone for me to mention this every now and then. 

Tinkles

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