Duelers need your opinions here on this matter.

[Changeup]

Hell yeah. Dumping ammo in any plane will make it more agile. It's just common sense. What amazes me is that most of these duelers in this thread refuse to admit it.

What most of these duelers wont admit is that agile plane = winning because they would be admitting to something that is wrong.  Any dueler will admit to lighter plane = more agile. 

[JOACH1M]

Hell yeah. Dumping ammo in any plane will make it more agile. It's just common sense. What amazes me is that most of these duelers in this thread refuse to admit it.

who are you calling out? Because id love to hear who in this thread that is titled "duelers" shoots ammo before their fight.

[dedalos]

So after a very quick rematch I found that both these tactics influence the fight a lot more then a lot of you think.


Went from a BnZ me fight to a surf inn dead in 2 turns fight. Dumping ammo in the FM2 makes that plane a ton more agile.

so, the rematch was done at the same exact speeds and you guys made the same exact moves at the same time as the previous fights and the outcone changed right? 

Its funny how you ask a question, you get an answer, and then argue with it because it was not what you hoped for. Kind of: Doctor do I need glasses?  Yes!  No I dont think so. My friend said I dont 

[BaldEagl]

So after a very quick rematch I found that both these tactics influence the fight a lot more then a lot of you think.


Went from a BnZ me fight to a surf inn dead in 2 turns fight. Dumping ammo in the FM2 makes that plane a ton more agile.

I could see it going from a BnZ to dead in two turns fight based on getting alt and E prior to the merge but not on gun/ammo weight alone.  If both were used in your rematch how do you know which made the difference?

BTW, I'm also curious as to the fuel/ammo loadout you used in our F4F-4 duels last week?

[Nomak]

Interesting topic.

I was a DA Junkie for a long time.  Keep in mind I flew my first sortie in about 7 years the other night (Been playing Warcraft).  So I have not done it in a very long time.

Most of the guys I hung out with in the DA Dumped ammo.... including myself.  Was just a habit really.  No clue if it really helped anything.  If someone broke alt cap at the merge they usually just screwed themselves and died quicker.  If they really really broke alt cap and tried to BnZ I would just auger and find someone else to fight.

Redd made a great point.....  After spending countless hours dueling the MA was different for me.  I flew like I was in the DA when in the MA.  This can create great fights but can also create a ton of frustration/anger. 

[Ack-Ack]

<cough> AKAK


Heading in the opposite direction of the duel (flying north when you should be flying south) when taking off from the north base...
... to then a few minutes later turning around, finally heading south, in order to gather up an E advantage is a limp wristed approach to dueling.

<cough> AKAK


Nuff said.  

The films were posted of our duels and not one of them showed me going above the agreed upon merge or doing anything else that would have broken our duel agreement.  There is nothing 'cheating' about climbing over your base to the agreed upon merge altitude before turning to meet at the center. 

I particularly enjoyed the one duel in which I shot your fuel tank and caused you to run out of fuel and you started whining how I took up 50% fuel instead of 25% and ran you out of gas.   

You're just pissed I beat the crap out of you and enjoyed rubbing in your face the fact that you sucked at this game. 

ack-ack

[Changeup]

You're just pissed I beat the crap out of you and enjoyed rubbing in your face the fact that you sucked at this game. 

ack-ack

OMG........BAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fulcrum]

Did you expect anything less from Middrift?  If so, you are an optimistic soul....

[dedalos]

The films were posted of our duels and not one of them showed me going above the agreed upon merge or doing anything else that would have broken our duel agreement.  There is nothing 'cheating' about climbing over your base to the agreed upon merge altitude before turning to meet at the center. 

I particularly enjoyed the one duel in which I shot your fuel tank and caused you to run out of fuel and you started whining how I took up 50% fuel instead of 25% and ran you out of gas.   

You're just pissed I beat the crap out of you and enjoyed rubbing in your face the fact that you sucked at this game. 

ack-ack

BS. Halfway has never been shot down 

[Oldman731]

There is nothing 'cheating' about climbing over your base to the agreed upon merge altitude before turning to meet at the center. 

Have to say, that would have surprised me, too.  I figure you both take off and head towards each other.

- oldman

[Redd]

A lot of times I duel Dedalos he dumps ammo , unfortunately he mostly dumps it into my plane.

[GhostCDB]

YouDie is notorious for doing this. . .and still losing 

Some dweebs just can't win without the advantage. . .and can't win with the advantage either. 

[dedalos]

A lot of times I duel Dedalos he dumps ammo , unfortunately he mostly dumps it into my plane.

not we are both in f6fs    you make a spit out of that thing. Or is it because you dump ammo? 

[JOACH1M]

YouDie is notorious for doing this. . .and still losing 

Some dweebs just can't win without the advantage. . .and can't win with the advantage either. 

you beat him?    he must be bad! 

[LCADolby]

YouDie/Bong I had to squelch him after a barrage or rage PMs.

Shooting him down is not advisable after he's made a misjudgement.