Author Topic: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....  (Read 5512 times)

Offline Estes

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3647
Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #45 on: March 18, 2014, 02:40:23 AM »
Two pounds of cotton plus two pounds of gold = _____

 :D
:confused: Wait, cheese?

Offline LCADolby

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7215
Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #46 on: March 18, 2014, 05:45:28 AM »
Two pounds of cotton plus two pounds of gold = _____

 :D

It's 4lbs in total weight.

Simples
JG5 "Eismeer"
YouTube-20Dolby10
Twitch - Glendinho

Offline Brooke

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15475
      • http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/
Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #47 on: March 18, 2014, 01:30:42 PM »
Two pounds of cotton plus two pounds of gold = _____

 :D

= my outfit!


Offline Zoney

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6503
Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #48 on: March 18, 2014, 01:34:35 PM »
= my outfit!

(Image removed from quote.)

Just a bit of advice if I may.....Don't go swimming in that outfit.
Wag more, bark less.


Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23046
Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #50 on: March 18, 2014, 02:05:10 PM »
Two pounds of cotton plus two pounds of gold = _____

 :D
Four pounds of course.

The cotton will, also of course, have a much higher volume than the gold will.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline Kingpin

  • AH Training Corps
  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1070
Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #51 on: March 18, 2014, 02:48:08 PM »

The cotton will, also of course, have a much higher volume than the gold will.

Yes, but which one will Icepac claim is modeled incorrectly despite multiple explanations that are ignored in hopes of eventually hearing what he wants to hear?

 :D
Quote from: bozon
For those of us playing this game for well over a decade, Aces High is more of a social club. The game just provides the framework. I keep logging in for the people and Pipz was the kind that you keep coming to meet again.

Offline Arlo

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 24759
Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #52 on: March 18, 2014, 03:32:04 PM »
 :lol

Offline FLS

  • AH Training Corps
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11605
      • Trainer's Website
Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #53 on: March 18, 2014, 03:37:59 PM »
Yes, but the rudder, in a 90 degree bank will need to generate downforce to raise the nose such that the "side of the plane" can provide lift.

Still.....this discussion is about whether the planes of aces high can demonstrate a positive rate of climb from level flight while missing a wing by banking 90 degrees and using the rudder.

So which aces high planes, in real life, ever achieved a positive rate of climb from level flight while missing a wing by banking 90 degrees and using the rudder?

Actually you said that you had to dive first to build up speed. Climbing from level flight is not what you described. You can not climb knife edge from stable level flight.


Offline Skyyr

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1801
Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #55 on: March 18, 2014, 05:08:10 PM »
Four pounds of course.

The cotton will, also of course, have a much higher volume than the gold will.

Not if it's on fire.
Skyyr

Tours:
166 - 190
198 - 204
218 - 220
286 - 287
290 - ---

nrshida: "I almost beat Skyyr after he took a 6 year break!"
A few moments later...

vs Shane: 28-9

"Some men just want to watch the world burn."

Offline icepac

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6808
Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #56 on: March 19, 2014, 01:13:02 AM »
Actually you said that you had to dive first to build up speed. Climbing from level flight is not what you described. You can not climb knife edge from stable level flight.

And you surely can't climb knife edge missing a wing from a 7000 rpm dive....... But you can in aces high.

Take up a fm2, crash into a drone to remove a wing at 10,000 feet, bank 90 degrees, and you can use the rudder to raise the nose from way below the horizon to high enough to climb at 4000 rpm.

That is not realistic.

Offline FLS

  • AH Training Corps
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11605
      • Trainer's Website
Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #57 on: March 19, 2014, 01:26:46 AM »
I'll enjoy seeing that film.

Offline MrRiplEy[H]

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11633
Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #58 on: March 19, 2014, 04:05:16 AM »
One would think Brewster would be a good test plane for this, it has a rudder almost bigger than the rest of the plane  :x
Definiteness of purpose is the starting point of all achievement. –W. Clement Stone

Offline save

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2831
Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #59 on: March 19, 2014, 04:56:23 AM »
190A is better , it does not have any wings at all, just sidesteps so you can climb into cockpit from either side, and its rudder is very effective.
My ammo last for 6 Lancasters, or one Yak3.
"And the Yak 3 ,aka the "flying Yamato"..."
-Caldera