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Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #60 on: March 19, 2014, 05:17:15 AM »
One would think Brewster would be a good test plane for this, it has a rudder almost bigger than the rest of the plane  :x

The Brewster as modeled actually flies quite well without wingtips.
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Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #61 on: March 19, 2014, 02:56:00 PM »
Two pounds of cotton plus two pounds of gold = _____

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$42,554 dollars for the gold at current prices. They'll probably throw the cotton in for free.
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Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #62 on: March 19, 2014, 04:30:52 PM »
And you surely can't climb knife edge missing a wing from a 7000 rpm dive....... But you can in aces high.

Take up a fm2, crash into a drone to remove a wing at 10,000 feet, bank 90 degrees, and you can use the rudder to raise the nose from way below the horizon to high enough to climb at 4000 rpm.

That is not realistic.

So what exactly  is the max LCO of the fuselage  of an fm2?

I assume you must have done the calculations because you KNOW ours is not correct.

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Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #63 on: March 19, 2014, 04:31:58 PM »
Two pounds of cotton plus two pounds of gold = _____

 :D

A really shiny coat?

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Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #64 on: March 19, 2014, 04:42:35 PM »
So what exactly  is the max LCO of the fuselage  of an fm2?

I assume you must have done the calculations because you KNOW ours is not correct.

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Okay, this has given me an extreme curiousity...how does one get the lift and drag coefficients for things likes the fuselage alone of a WWII airplane?
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Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #65 on: March 19, 2014, 04:50:37 PM »
Okay, this has given me an extreme curiousity...how does one get the lift and drag coefficients for things likes the fuselage alone of a WWII airplane?



The important bit is Area

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Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #66 on: March 19, 2014, 04:52:10 PM »
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The important bit is Area

But isn't some wind-tunnel testing of the shape required at some point along the line?

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Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #67 on: March 19, 2014, 04:53:23 PM »
Fliud Dynamics on a PC can solve that
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Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #68 on: March 19, 2014, 04:57:00 PM »
Wow. I did not know they had the technology to reliably do that now.
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Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #69 on: March 19, 2014, 05:06:51 PM »
Wow. I did not know they had the technology to reliably do that now.

In 2003-5 I was using a Fluid Dynamics program on your everyday PC.
I can't quite remember the name but I think it was a program by EDS.
It was pretty cool.

(But getting it to recognise work done in Solidedge was a pain in the rectum  :mad:)
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Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #70 on: March 19, 2014, 05:20:45 PM »
I seem to have been pwned. I stand corrected.  :aok
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Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #71 on: March 21, 2014, 08:54:01 AM »
Two pounds of cotton plus two pounds of gold = _____

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Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #72 on: March 21, 2014, 08:56:41 AM »
$42,554 dollars for the gold at current prices. They'll probably throw the cotton in for free.

what it if were two lbs of $100 bills?
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Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #73 on: March 21, 2014, 09:35:13 AM »
Icepac is still crunching the numbers  :old:


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Re: Why can AH planes climb when missing a wing by bank ing 90.....
« Reply #74 on: March 21, 2014, 09:53:12 AM »
Icepac is still crunching the numbers  :old:



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