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Offline Interceptor

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Re: 30mm is buggy
« Reply #90 on: May 26, 2015, 09:05:35 AM »
It seems some parts of bombers (no bug sighted so far when attacking fighters with Mk108 in G-14) are immune...
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Offline Zimme83

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Re: 30mm is buggy
« Reply #91 on: May 26, 2015, 09:14:06 AM »
First of all I'm not sure all these hits really are 30mm hits.
Damage to my Ki was:
Aileron, flap, tail gun, engine, fuel leak so i took some damage (I however do believe that most was 20mm hits)

I think the "bug" consist of 2 things: First is the damage model, enough damage to a part and it fails and on bombers one 30mm might not be enough to destroy that part (seems like no damage) Second is that a hit on a control surface or flap can detach that part but the wing itself is intact so by hitting a lot of "small" parts a plane can absorb more damage than if the hits has been to the wing.
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Re: 30mm is buggy
« Reply #92 on: May 26, 2015, 01:55:42 PM »
If that's how the damage modeling works in this game then maybe a little tweak with it is needed. How about any overkill damage is dealt to connected parts? So if you hit a flap with a 30mm then the flap comes off and all the overkill damage that was not needed to break the flap is then dealt to the inner wing. Or if you hit the horizontal stabilizer then it comes off as does the elevator and all overkill damage is dealt towards the tail section and other tail stabilizers.
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Re: 30mm is buggy
« Reply #93 on: May 26, 2015, 02:50:22 PM »
Based on my observations it seems like its how it works but i cannot say im sure about the damage model.
But even if damage are transfered to all parts within the blast radius a hit on a small part that detach will still be less lethal than a direct hit in the wing.
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Offline Interceptor

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Re: 30mm is buggy
« Reply #94 on: May 27, 2015, 12:13:46 PM »
A reply from Hitech on this damage model would be really nice... :cheesy:
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Re: 30mm is buggy
« Reply #95 on: May 27, 2015, 08:24:30 PM »
Quote from: Interceptor on May 27, 2015, 12:13:46 PM
A reply from Hitech on this damage model would be really nice... :cheesy:
he commented, but it was in a room with 4 other people and you are not one of them  :noid
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Offline wrench

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Re: 30mm is buggy
« Reply #96 on: June 04, 2015, 06:47:27 AM »
Quote from: Interceptor on May 26, 2015, 09:05:35 AM
It seems some parts of bombers (no bug sighted so far when attacking fighters with Mk108 in G-14) are immune...

From my observations the only part of bombers that appear immune to damage are the bomb bay doors. Have never seen them fall off from damage either, even repeated 30mm hits.
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Offline Interceptor

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Re: 30mm is buggy
« Reply #97 on: June 04, 2015, 10:31:01 AM »
I deeply hope HTC reads (at least one time per year) this forum, otherwise im not sure ur (usefull) comments will change... anything... :old:

Quote from: wrench on June 04, 2015, 06:47:27 AM
From my observations the only part of bombers that appear immune to damage are the bomb bay doors. Have never seen them fall off from damage either, even repeated 30mm hits.
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Re: 30mm is buggy
« Reply #98 on: June 04, 2015, 12:11:52 PM »
Quote from: Interceptor on June 04, 2015, 10:31:01 AM
I deeply hope HTC reads (at least one time per year) this forum, otherwise im not sure ur (usefull) comments will change... anything... :old:

I'm sure they do read this but I wouldn't expect a fix (if one is needed) will be forthcoming because of the new update that is nearing open beta.
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Offline Drane

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Re: 30mm is buggy
« Reply #99 on: June 12, 2015, 05:47:54 PM »
ME163 vs LANCs

10 hits on the drone and 5 on the lead bomber. Ran low on fuel and had to give up. Both lancs landed.

Maybe this will help determine if there's a problem. Film and screenshots attached.











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Re: 30mm is buggy
« Reply #100 on: June 12, 2015, 11:59:47 PM »
Oops forgot a picture that shows 1 more hit on drone tail area.

11 hits total on drone that I could see in the film.

« Last Edit: June 13, 2015, 12:57:24 AM by Drane »
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Offline Interceptor

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Re: 30mm is buggy
« Reply #101 on: June 13, 2015, 04:28:16 PM »
Exactly like the 30mm bug : some parts of Lancaster (as other bombers) seem to be imune to fire... :headscratch:
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Re: 30mm is buggy
« Reply #102 on: June 14, 2015, 04:01:43 AM »
Offline drones aren't a good way to test gun leathality for a couple reason. Also german 30mm had a delayed fuse. Could it be possible that shells are going through and through?
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Re: 30mm is buggy
« Reply #103 on: June 14, 2015, 05:15:40 AM »
Quote from: FLOOB on June 14, 2015, 04:01:43 AM
Offline drones aren't a good way to test gun leathality for a couple reason. Also german 30mm had a delayed fuse. Could it be possible that shells are going through and through?

The ME163 vs LANC example was from online in the late war arena on 6/12/2015 at around 1545 hours central standard time.
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Re: 30mm is buggy
« Reply #104 on: June 14, 2015, 05:29:24 AM »
Dont forget the drone vs lead bug.
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