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Offline TheCrazyOrange

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Re: Two Scenarios and a Short Quiz
« Reply #75 on: June 06, 2014, 05:18:18 PM »
This first scenario I'd call a Vulch more than anything. If your coming in on a player that hasn't enough speed or room to maneuver then it's a vulch. Sitting on a perch killing dingbats to stupid to get some all and speed before engaging isn't a rope, it's killing dingbats.

In neither case would I call them fights. They would just lame ways to rack up easy kills. Kinda like spawn camping. Yes everyone does it, but it still isn't a fight.

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Re: Two Scenarios and a Short Quiz
« Reply #76 on: June 06, 2014, 06:39:00 PM »
A certain amount of challenge/risk is needed by everyone to avoid boredom. Otherwise one could stay offline shooting the target drones and save $15 a month.

However, the are so many random variables in MA play that the odds are often completely incalculable. If you consider yourself to only be playing against the nearest thing with a red icon then it looks easy to tell whether it is a "fair" fight or not, but the MA rarely allows you the luxury of that single bandit being the only factor you have to allow for. And the Main Arena is such a wide-open sandbox that it is difficult for outsider to even say which game a given player is playing, much less whether or not they are playing it with even odds. For instance, at any given moment a player might be playing to get in one good fight and wax a tail if he can. Or his objective might be trying to get some kills and survive the myriad forms of death the MA has to offer in order to land them, or he can be trying to capture or prevent the capture of a base. If a guy desperately fighting to save a base shoots you in the face in order to get past you and strafe troops, rather than engaging in an ACM chess match, is it being unsportsmanlike or is he simply playing a different sport than the one you wanted him to play with you?


I think the perspective of most saying that certain ACM is unsportsman like etc. Is because when most like to fight or compete it's on even terms, and then the one to win in the 'even' fight is the victor.  While that is a good way of fighting, I disagree when it's said to be the 'best' way.

I think a true fight, or at least one to be more proud of, is winning when the odds are against you, rather than even.  Where the enemy is taking the 'cheap shots' etc, and you still come out on top.  While it is annoying at times, it is still a legitimate tactic/tool that can be used in combat.   

Some have a 'code of honor', myself included, a way of limiting how they play and defeating the enemy in those guidelines/rules.  For example: when I first started playing, I did anything necessary to kill the enemy. As I got more experienced I challenged myself, one of the 'limiters' I put on myself, was not going Head-On when there is another way to kill the enemy.  I will go Head-On, but only as a last resort.  That being said, many make the simple mistake of trying to project their 'way of honor' or guidelines/limits on other players.


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Re: Two Scenarios and a Short Quiz
« Reply #77 on: June 06, 2014, 06:41:46 PM »
Its a time honored tradition:imply cheating and other disreputable tactics when one runs out of options in a debate.

Ah. So basically this:
"Crikey, sir. I'm looking forward to today. Up diddly up, down diddly down, whoops, poop, twiddly dee - decent scrap with the fiendish Red Baron - bit of a jolly old crash landing behind enemy lines - capture, torture, escape, and then back home in time for tea and medals."

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Re: Two Scenarios and a Short Quiz
« Reply #78 on: June 06, 2014, 07:32:19 PM »
it always makes me laugh when people talk abut honor then they go and kill anybody that has less "skill" than they do.  what is the honorable part of killing somebody that is weaker than you or donesnt know the game as well as you do? the more people talk about playing with honor the more hypocritical they seem to me.

I will ask players if they are engaged on a 1v1 if they need help out of courtesy for the friendly.  if they say jump in the I'll jump in otherwise I'll stay out.  and once in a while the friendly if beaten will ask to let the red con go as he's badly damaged and he had fun with the fight.   but that has nothing to do with honor.

I play this game because it is fun and I have fun playing with friends.  doing honorable things in the game doesnt include flying airplanes or shooting.  it's giving words of encouragement or saluting a guy that you havent seen in months and you are glad that he's back.  perhaps pay a player's monthly dues when he's short of money.  or give him a family discount on the extra hardware you have laying around.

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