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Offline TheCrazyOrange

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Re: Tie forum access to subscription status
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2014, 08:53:26 PM »
What post or posts provoked this wish? 
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Re: Tie forum access to subscription status
« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2014, 09:10:01 PM »
A lot of ex-players continue to post on numerous boards here, complaining about the game, criticizing, etc. I'd like to see forum access tied to active accounts. If a player wants to post, they need to have an active subscription. This ensures that everyone sharing their opinion, criticism, etc. of the game is actually paying towards it.

Perhaps create a single sub-forum for inactive account players to post in, that way they could check in with friends and previous squaddies.


Right!  Because the words of vets who've played with this community since AW days (or less) and who, in game, actually have the skill to take any kind of fight aren't as worthy as a current 6 month vet whose primary tactic is running by all accounts.
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Re: Tie forum access to subscription status
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2014, 09:16:09 PM »
How many bars do you go into, day after day, without dropping a dime or any intent of doing so? Most business owners would become fed up very quickly with such a practice.

As wise as the OP. For every non paying customer in a bar, there's going to be a half dozen friends sitting around BSing with him.   Bar owners LOVE people hanging out in their bars.
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Re: Tie forum access to subscription status
« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2014, 12:47:34 AM »
As someone who has taken year long breaks from the game(Afghanistan) and just recently for 8 months for personal reasons...big -1
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Re: Tie forum access to subscription status
« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2014, 01:00:48 AM »

Right!  Because the words of vets who've played with this community since AW days (or less) and who, in game, actually have the skill to take any kind of fight aren't as worthy as a current 6 month vet whose primary tactic is running by all accounts.

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Re: Tie forum access to subscription status
« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2014, 05:25:18 AM »

Right!  Because the words of vets who've played with this community since AW days (or less) and who, in game, actually have the skill to take any kind of fight aren't as worthy as a current 6 month vet whose primary tactic is running by all accounts.

I always thought that HTC should make it mandatory for new subscribers to the game to also be asked to sign up to the ah bbs, and make at least one post saying "hello, I've just joined AH!", or smething to that effect... That way the newer subscribers don't take 1 to 2 years to finally stumble across the forums...

As for the constant accusations of skyyr's tactics being running for all accounts..

I have fought him in the MA, DA and have yet to see him "run" as so many players keep claiming...
nor have I seen him run while winging with our squaddies flying any where from 3 to 8 online flying together... All of us was new to any and every game we have ever played...

Give the fella a break...

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Re: Tie forum access to subscription status
« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2014, 11:34:52 AM »
TC hits the nail on the head and it's not off-topic.

“Put your money where your mouth is” is simplistic.  It’s not wise to discount the experience of others on the basis of an active subscription. 

The community response on the boards in general can sometimes be caustic and serves only to stop others from imagining and innovating.  It’s a tone.  It’s cultural.  The situation in the Veterans Administration is an example.  The culture there is described as ‘corrosive’.

The tone of this thread became generally negative and resulted in at least one attack on the character of the OP.  All posters, active or not, in agreement or not, have the responsibility to treat the OP and his idea with respect.   That’s not a Skuzzy-Rule.  It’s the same guideline people use at school and at work.

The tone of this board is often sarcastic in regard to innovation.  With respect, the attitudes  of Skuzzy and HiTech have sometimes set that tone.  They become exasperated (and cranky) when we beat each other - and them - up for small changes in the face of much larger innovations to implement.  Ultimately the entire franchise belongs to HiTech Creations.  Ultimately, it’s their soap and their banana and they will wash it as fast as they want to.

Our community is small, and getting smaller.  I want more people participating here, not less.  Even if I don’t agree with the OP, I want him to keep thinking about how to make the game and the community more appealing to new players.

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Re: Tie forum access to subscription status
« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2014, 12:30:29 PM »
The problem is that at some point, impasses will be reached. This means that either those that disagree step back and allow the others to lobby for something they feel would either be a waste or an active detriment. This is not a reasonable expectation, given how impassioned the community is. The other option is continuing to argue their case, which results in these fiascos.

Personally I think Skyyrr is a bit of an idiot with regard to his desires for the future of the game. I suspect I'm not alone. Combine this with his abrasive demeanor displayed so far, and it's little wonder that the results are as they are.

Now I believe everyone starts out deserving a certain level of respect. I also believe that one can forfeit that respect.

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Re: Tie forum access to subscription status
« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2014, 12:49:39 PM »

Right!  Because the words of vets who've played with this community since AW days (or less) and who, in game, actually have the skill to take any kind of fight aren't as worthy as a current 6 month vet whose primary tactic is running by all accounts.

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Re: Tie forum access to subscription status
« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2014, 02:01:04 PM »
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Simple: Players take breaks from this game and come back, sometimes even a year or two later (sometimes even more!). For a community that started in 1999 such breaks are still "short". Participation in forum discussions keep these players a part of the AH community and makes it much more likely that they return. Cut them off completely from the game and they are likely to forget about it.
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Re: Tie forum access to subscription status
« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2014, 03:45:17 PM »
Ive seen names in this thread that should be considered highest priority by AH to get back in the game when the new version comes out. Or even sooner. Even tho they arent currently playing many have skill sets that can aid the newer players very much. And to the point, I cant think of one of them who starts controversy on the board.

What could possibly be gained by banning them from the boards cause for whatever reason they cant, or wont, pay their $16 a month?

The fact they still drop by means they might come back and they are the players we need most of all. Theres going to be a lot of excitement when this new engine comes out. Making these veterans feel welcomed back should be a priority.
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Re: Tie forum access to subscription status
« Reply #41 on: July 05, 2014, 04:03:22 PM »
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Simple: Players take breaks from this game and come back, sometimes even a year or two later (sometimes even more!). For a community that started in 1999 such breaks are still "short". Participation in forum discussions keep these players a part of the AH community and makes it much more likely that they return. Cut them off completely from the game and they are likely to forget about it.

well said, bozon!

I still think that at the time a new subscriber joins the game, they should at the very minimum be invited to also join the AcesHigh message boards... I posted earlier that maybe HTC should make it a requirement that all new subscribing players also be required to register and make at least one post...

That is actually a little to demanding... but a little description of what is available to the new player at the AH message boards and an invitation to come register and be a part of the AH community, might be a better approach...

Just a suggestion...

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Re: Tie forum access to subscription status
« Reply #42 on: July 05, 2014, 08:39:51 PM »
I'd hate to think that I could be arbitrarily cut off from old friends and foes.  I come here when the constant drivel you can read anywhere else online makes my brain hurt.  Skuzzy has the ban stick for anybody who truly gets out of line and he's very very good and judicious about how he uses it.  I still promote the game in my daily life when I run across someone that has an interest in WWII aviation or gaming in general.  So I'd give this a -1 respectfully. 
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Re: Tie forum access to subscription status
« Reply #43 on: July 05, 2014, 09:08:55 PM »
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I still think that at the time a new subscriber joins the game, they should at the very minimum be invited to also join the AcesHigh message boards... I posted earlier that maybe HTC should make it a requirement that all new subscribing players also be required to register and make at least one post...

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Re: Tie forum access to subscription status
« Reply #44 on: July 05, 2014, 09:30:26 PM »
I always thought that HTC should make it mandatory for new subscribers to the game to also be asked to sign up to the ah bbs, and make at least one post saying "hello, I've just joined AH!", or smething to that effect... That way the newer subscribers don't take 1 to 2 years to finally stumble across the forums...

As for the constant accusations of skyyr's tactics being running for all accounts..

I have fought him in the MA, DA and have yet to see him "run" as so many players keep claiming...
nor have I seen him run while winging with our squaddies flying any where from 3 to 8 online flying together... All of us was new to any and every game we have ever played...

Give the fella a break...

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