Recend the 12 hour side switch rules

[JOACH1M]

"Inappropriate" as defined by HTC, which is why the YMMV...  Like it or not, this is his forum, his sandbox, and he is allowing us to play in it.  Kick sand in his face, and you are asked to leave.  <shrug>

when people are paying to play in your "sandbox" they are gonna have a say in things they don't like, to point the game in a better direction for all. And if you don't listen to what they have to say, they will stop paying.

[Triton28]

Like it or not, this is his forum, his sandbox, and he is allowing us to play in it.  Kick sand in his face, and you are asked to leave.  <shrug>

I see this repeated over and over and while I can't say it isn't technically true, we're not freeloading guests, we're paying customers.  If you run a business and a paying customer comes in to tell you about an issue they're having, you're obligated to listen and respond... even if it's the 100th time you've had to listen to the complaint.  This is a pain in the arse for a business owner, because inevitably you'll get stupid people taking up your time telling you stupid things, but it quite literally is part of the cost of doing business.   

[guncrasher]

trito I recall there was a response.   heck there even was warning to stop.

semp

[Triton28]

trito I recall there was a response.   heck there even was warning to stop.

semp

Don't recall.  Find the links and show me where there was a back and forth between customers and company.

[hitech]

lol really? They were banning anyone who referenced a 12 in their sig or avatar. 

We never band anyone from the game.

We also never band anyone from the board for disusing the 12 hour rule.

We did ban one person who decided  not to follow the rules of this board and suspended a few other for a week or 2. But if my memory is correct they all were members of the Muppets.

HiTech

[Bear76]

We never band anyone from the game.

We also never band anyone from the board for disusing the 12 hour rule.

We did ban one person who decided  not to follow the rules of this board and suspended a few other for a week or 2. But if my memory is correct they all were members of the Muppets.

HiTech

What "band" were you in?

[JOACH1M]

We never band anyone from the game.

We also never band anyone from the board for disusing the 12 hour rule.

We did ban one person who decided  not to follow the rules of this board and suspended a few other for a week or 2. But if my memory is correct they all were members of the Muppets.

HiTech

I wasn't talking about in game, and well grizz was discussing the 12 hour rule and was booted from forum which led to him canceling his account.

But what about the deal where if there was anything that had to deal with a number 12 they were suspended or forced to change avatar immediately?

[Ack-Ack]

But what about the deal where if there was anything that had to deal with a number 12 they were suspended or forced to change avatar immediately?

Probably because the avatars violated one of the forum rules, probably the one about trolling/flaming.  As someone pointed out, even though we are paying customers, we still have to follow the rules in the forums and in game set by HTC. 

[hitech]

But what about the deal where if there was anything that had to deal with a number 12 they were suspended or forced to change avatar immediately?

This is not correct. But people who decided to interject their view point on the 12 hour rule any chance they got and hence derailing threads, including starting a campaign by putting their view point in  avatars were given suspensions.

The person who started the avatar campaign was removed from the board.

And it appears to me it is mostly the Muppets who still want to beat a dead horse on this issue. Including  making false claims like yours about why people are banned.

HiTech

[JOACH1M]

Probably because the avatars violated one of the forum rules, probably the one about trolling/flaming.  As someone pointed out, even though we are paying customers, we still have to follow the rules in the forums and in game set by HTC.

If a number "12" is flamebaiting/Trolling then people need to lighten up a little bit. Take a little criticism, or maybe act like their opinion might matter.

This is not correct. But people who decided to interject their view point on the 12 hour rule any chance they got and hence derailing threads, including starting a campaign by putting their view point in  avatars were given suspensions.

The person who started the avatar campaign was removed from the board.

And it appears to me it is mostly the Muppets who still want to beat a dead horse on this issue. Including  making false claims like yours about why people are banned.

HiTech

avatar campaign that had a number? Did that really cut you that deep to react in banning someone?

FWIW, I was not associated with muppets during this whole ordeal. I stood on the sidelines for the most part...

What's false about what I said for the reason getting banned? They were banned, over the 12 hour rule. Which included avatars with a number 12 and pictures in the sig with a 12.

[ImADot]

What's false about what I said for the reason getting banned? They were banned, over the 12 hour rule. Which included avatars with a number 12 and pictures in the sig with a 12.

Being banned and being suspended are two completely different things. If someone gets suspended and cancels their account in a huff, it doesn't mean they were banned.

[Scca]

I see this repeated over and over and while I can't say it isn't technically true, we're not freeloading guests, we're paying customers.  If you run a business and a paying customer comes in to tell you about an issue they're having, you're obligated to listen and respond... even if it's the 100th time you've had to listen to the complaint.  This is a pain in the arse for a business owner, because inevitably you'll get stupid people taking up your time telling you stupid things, but it quite literally is part of the cost of doing business.   

I do get that, really I do.  In the end as a business owner, you have to decide if more are being effected by the one or two that are annoying, or is turning off the one or two better over all.  When I was in the car repair business, I told a customer I didn't want them back, and I wouldn't work on their car anymore.  Did we lose their business, yes, was the business better with them gone, yes.  YMMV

[Triton28]

Well, Hitech is correct in that it was Muppets who changed their avatar to include fists with the #12 superimposed... lol.   Yes, we did derail threads in some cases.  Yes, we did keep beating the dead horse.  Yes, we can be idiots and we know this, because we did it on purpose.  For the record though, it wasn't just Muppets who disliked the 12 hour rule.  There were many others in many other squads. 

Now let's explore the possibility that HTC chimes in with some sort of response that wasn't cryptic or parental in nature, and does so early on in the stream of 12 hour threads... something like, "Guys, we've heard the moans, and we care, we really promise we do, but we set the time limit at 12 hours because _____________________________ _____ and we're not confident that a change would have the effect you think it would."  Worst case scenario, a few of us chime in with "yeah, but.." and a discussion is had on an internet discussion board.  This cannot be a bad or unintended thing, can it? 

[hitech]

Well, Hitech is correct in that it was Muppets who changed their avatar to include fists with the #12 superimposed... lol.   Yes, we did derail threads in some cases.  Yes, we did keep beating the dead horse.  Yes, we can be idiots and we know this, because we did it on purpose.  For the record though, it wasn't just Muppets who disliked the 12 hour rule.  There were many others in many other squads. 

Now let's explore the possibility that HTC chimes in with some sort of response that wasn't cryptic or parental in nature, and does so early on in the stream of 12 hour threads... something like, "Guys, we've heard the moans, and we care, we really promise we do, but we set the time limit at 12 hours because _____________________________ _____ and we're not confident that a change would have the effect you think it would."  Worst case scenario, a few of us chime in with "yeah, but.." and a discussion is had on an internet discussion board.  This cannot be a bad or unintended thing, can it?

Let me get this straight. Your trying to justify breaking the rules, because I did not blow enough smoke when I explained why the 12 hour rule was in place, prior to the avatar incident?

Sorry I don't buy it,from experience, anytime I explain something, the people who want something different and would brake the rules to try get what they want, will come up with some excuse why what I said isn't so. Just like you are doing now. And the end result is almost always the same. They would not like that I didn't accept their idea, and still brake the rules kicking and screaming.

HiTech

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