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Re: "Resupping is more effective than upping a tank or plane to defend"
« Reply #135 on: April 14, 2016, 03:05:30 PM »
What an insignifigant board troll.  POTW led Horde?  Really?  :rolleyes:  We avoid other friendly pilots like a plague when possible.   You are shoveling off crap almost as fast as you make it. Truth-o-meter is somewhere on zero for this post.  :aok

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Re: "Resupping is more effective than upping a tank or plane to defend"
« Reply #136 on: April 14, 2016, 03:10:54 PM »


Truce. As weak as the thread complaint is on the surface, it obviously means a great deal to Junky, Dolby, Guncrasher and Lazer (and I bear no malice toward the pigs). Why don't we either logically pick the original argument apart and re-piece it or let it go.

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Re: "Resupping is more effective than upping a tank or plane to defend"
« Reply #138 on: April 14, 2016, 03:17:16 PM »
cant you guys leave this stuff out just once

Me and Vee had our fight in the DA, and we had fun.  :D
If I left that stuff out, would we have had fights and fun, I doubt it  :neener:
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Re: "Resupping is more effective than upping a tank or plane to defend"
« Reply #139 on: April 14, 2016, 03:18:47 PM »
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Truce. As weak as the thread complaint is on the surface, it obviously means a great deal to Junky, Dolby, Guncrasher and Lazer (and I bear no malice toward the pigs). Why don't we either logically pick the original argument apart and re-piece it or let it go.
There are multitude of interests in this game for each player-some fighter only, some bombers only, some GV only, some do it all, some only part.  Furball, base takers, spawn campers, etc.  Most can do defense some can do offense, some sneak, some tell you they are coming but one thing I think holds true for most of us.  We come here to interact with other human players in a World War II combat setting.  If that does not occur then a lot of us lose interest.  I know I do.

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Re: "Resupping is more effective than upping a tank or plane to defend"
« Reply #140 on: April 14, 2016, 03:19:42 PM »
Ruffled feathers and hurt feelings aside, how do WE, the players, encourage more air combat without it involving flying over resupping M3s one hopes will up while the airfield is being de-acked? Surely, as in 'ancient' times, arrangements can lead to a furball in the MA.
Or HTC makes the effect of supps less and we will be fine....literally back to where we were 2 years ago except the strats will still control the overall down time...which is fine.

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Re: "Resupping is more effective than upping a tank or plane to defend"
« Reply #141 on: April 14, 2016, 03:21:36 PM »
Kill the VH at the field the M3s would come from.  Also kill strats so things stay down longer and require more M3s.  Kill troops and supplies at the fields nearby.

It is just an extra step in the attack process and is actually a strategy one should use if the intention is to take the field.   

1.  Kill their ability to resupply
2.  Drop the field
3.  Clean up
4.  Take the field
5.  Resupply the new field / town

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Re: "Resupping is more effective than upping a tank or plane to defend"
« Reply #142 on: April 14, 2016, 03:21:53 PM »
There are multitude of interests in this game for each player-some fighter only, some bombers only, some GV only, some do it all, some only part.  Furball, base takers, spawn campers, etc.  Most can do defense some can do offense, some sneak, some tell you they are coming but one thing I think holds true for most of us.  We come here to interact with other human players in a World War II combat setting.  If that does not occur then a lot of us lose interest.  I know I do.

That's certainly a rephrasing of the complaint in a logical and mature manner without suggestion of extreme measure. My original suggestion stands. Arrange the fun well in advance. Do it over and over. Eventually it may just become habit without this 'extra effort.'  :salute :cheers:

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Re: "Resupping is more effective than upping a tank or plane to defend"
« Reply #143 on: April 14, 2016, 03:24:09 PM »
Or HTC makes the effect of supps less and we will be fine....literally back to where we were 2 years ago except the strats will still control the overall down time...which is fine.

Leave Hitech out of this. It's not a practical method to go running to him every time one or some of us have a bad night and we're not willing to own up to our part in such. The game ain't broke. Players just seem to be forgetting how to manage their fun better.

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Re: "Resupping is more effective than upping a tank or plane to defend"
« Reply #144 on: April 14, 2016, 03:25:50 PM »
Kill the VH at the field the M3s would come from.  Also kill strats so things stay down longer and require more M3s.  Kill troops and supplies at the fields nearby.

It is just an extra step in the attack process and is actually a strategy one should use if the intention is to take the field.   

1.  Kill their ability to resupply
2.  Drop the field
3.  Clean up
4.  Take the field
5.  Resupply the new field / town

IMHO

I want something set straight. Is this thread about efficient field capture or is it about encouraging other players to engage in air combat?  :airplane:

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Re: "Resupping is more effective than upping a tank or plane to defend"
« Reply #145 on: April 14, 2016, 04:13:08 PM »
Kill the VH at the field the M3s would come from.  Also kill strats so things stay down longer and require more M3s.  Kill troops and supplies at the fields nearby.

It is just an extra step in the attack process and is actually a strategy one should use if the intention is to take the field.   

1.  Kill their ability to resupply
2.  Drop the field
3.  Clean up
4.  Take the field
5.  Resupply the new field / town

IMHO

Sounds like shooting a lot of things that sit still to me.....and this is the root of the problem.

I'm not going to log in for 2 hours and spend 3/4 of the time porking fields only to HOPE that there is a chance a fight will get spawned...
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Re: "Resupping is more effective than upping a tank or plane to defend"
« Reply #146 on: April 14, 2016, 04:36:40 PM »
Sounds like shooting a lot of things that sit still to me.....and this is the root of the problem.


The problem isn't the game then, the problem is you.  The game provides sufficient tools to enable you and others to stop the other side from resupplying their town and field.  That you and others refuse to use these provided tools isn't HiTech's or the games fault or any short comings from either, it's yours.

Also, running M3s to resupply the town and field doesn't kill the fight, you can actually prolong the battle (and hence the fight) that otherwise would have ended when the horde swarmed and captured the base.  For example, last night there was a Knight base with an enemy CV parked off shore, the battle had already been going on for about an hour with the enemy starting to get the slight upper hand with numbers and got the town white flagged with multiple LVTs inbound.  Myself and another player then started to run supplies to the town while other Knights started to up fighters to defend the town and M3s.  With our running supplies, we managed to keep the field open and town blue flagged which then prolonged the fight for at least a couple of hours longer than it would have if supplies weren't run to town and field.

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Re: "Resupping is more effective than upping a tank or plane to defend"
« Reply #147 on: April 14, 2016, 04:44:16 PM »
Leave Hitech out of this. It's not a practical method to go running to him every time one or some of us have a bad night and we're not willing to own up to our part in such. The game ain't broke. Players just seem to be forgetting how to manage their fun better.
First Arlo....don't know what your name is in game....so I find myself not able to take you serious.

Second, "a bad night"....that would mean a single bad night....look up how many threads have this in them...been going on about this for close to a year now....you think it's only "a bad night"??? I log off before having a complete sortie in because of this issue quite often.

Third, It's HTCs game and I'm a customer...so yea I will look for their opinion on matters about the game whenever I want.

Finally, "manage their fun better" been playing this game for around 10 years....have always found ways to entertain myself for more hours then I care to admit....I don't see where your going with "manage our fun"...If there is no fight, I log off...I think dropping the field supply time down (or the amount of objects it can resupply) will make it so less people resupply a field in defense of it and more people will up a GV or plane to defend it because upping a tank or plane is a better way to dend it. As the game is now....you can almost hold an entire front of a map by having a few guys just resupply towns....How does that make this game fun or realistic? Please answer that question...no fights spawn from a bunch of M3s spawning to resupply a field...either the field gets resupply or the planes kill a lot of M3s (which isn't fun, it is pretty much fish in a cup)....What you get the satisfaction of taking or saving a field??? They don't matter in the end only the fight for them truly matters...Resupply was important in WW2...yea it was but the initial portion is the crap you read about because it is hard and exciting...you don't read about the supply clerk on Normandy 48 hours after the invasion pushing supps to the frontline...he was doing a very important job but that job sucked because 1. No action and 2. Boring...the same thing over and over again.

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Re: "Resupping is more effective than upping a tank or plane to defend"
« Reply #148 on: April 14, 2016, 04:55:39 PM »
The problem isn't the game then, the problem is you.  The game provides sufficient tools to enable you and others to stop the other side from resupplying their town and field.  That you and others refuse to use these provided tools isn't HiTech's or the games fault or any short comings from either, it's yours.

Also, running M3s to resupply the town and field doesn't kill the fight, you can actually prolong the battle (and hence the fight) that otherwise would have ended when the horde swarmed and captured the base.  For example, last night there was a Knight base with an enemy CV parked off shore, the battle had already been going on for about an hour with the enemy starting to get the slight upper hand with numbers and got the town white flagged with multiple LVTs inbound.  Myself and another player then started to run supplies to the town while other Knights started to up fighters to defend the town and M3s.  With our running supplies, we managed to keep the field open and town blue flagged which then prolonged the fight for at least a couple of hours longer than it would have if supplies weren't run to town and field.
I'd be cool with it if this is the scenario it was used in...but it's used instead of upping fighters at all, when has it been the thing to do when you see Alert Axx on country channel to up M3s with supps instead of upping an LA or Spit or whirb??? It started happening not too long ago but the problem has stayed and if anything happens more often now with the lower numbers. I never had this problem before this was added to game...now it does...yep my fault your right.
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Re: "Resupping is more effective than upping a tank or plane to defend"
« Reply #149 on: April 14, 2016, 05:01:58 PM »
Kill the VH at the field the M3s would come from.  Also kill strats so things stay down longer and require more M3s.  Kill troops and supplies at the fields nearby.

It is just an extra step in the attack process and is actually a strategy one should use if the intention is to take the field.   

1.  Kill their ability to resupply
2.  Drop the field
3.  Clean up
4.  Take the field
5.  Resupply the new field / town

IMHO

I spent most of my gaming time yesterday killing troops and vh.  they would be up in 30 minutes.  I gave up.

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