Suggestions regarding next Scenario (October, 2016)

[Brooke]

Brooke, I personally like the design as it now stands (15-Aug). But I don't yet know if I will be available to fly the event. I hope to. 

Thank you, Bino -- and I hope that you can fly in it.

If you are available at any point in the 12-hour period, please do join us. 

[Joker312]

A + D

Brooke my mistake on the B24's, I was just going on memory of the B24's actual use in NA. They began missions some time in '42 so I thought they were this event.

USCH do me favor and look to see in your crystal ball what numbers are going to win mega millions this week or do you only see my future?

I have made my opinion known. Now it's up to the CM's to decide how they want this event to proceed. After they have a finished product I will decide if its worth my time and effort.

I love these events and only want the best for everyone involved.

[Hajo]

A + D

Brooke my mistake on the B24's, I was just going on memory of the B24's actual use in NA. They began missions some time in '42 so I thought they were this event.

USCH do me favor and look to see in your crystal ball what numbers are going to win mega millions this week or do you only see my future?

I have made my opinion known. Now it's up to the CM's to decide how they want this event to proceed. After they have a finished product I will decide if its worth my time and effort.

I love these events and only want the best for everyone involved.

I used to love these events.  They were fine when Brooke and ROC wrote them up with help from the CM Staff.  Now we are getting Lobbyists involved.  This hasn't always been the norm in our Scenarios but now arguing for or against is the norm.  I'd fly them if Brooke or ROC listed kites to fly.  But now the input from the community is mostly sarcasm and fanboi side.  I've seen good people ridiculed who took the time to put a scenario together because their efforts weren't in the favor of "someones" side.

SOME PEOPLE NEED TO GROW UP!  Brooke and ROC....or anyone who takes their personal time to design and institute a Scenario deserves better then this.

Rule #1)   With the thought Brooke puts into scenarios along with other CMs the plane sets are what they are and will be historically based as close as possible.

Historically the RAF and AAC flew together in the Med.  Yes....if you read and I can give you several suggestions SpitIXs did fly in the same theater as the AAC in the Med.

Numbers however differ on how many were used.

I've given up basically on scenarios since Grosse Schlag 2.  The participants are now gamers as opposed to those of us who enjoy the history and the virtual reality that can be attained.  I don't care to read the logs for what I did.  Many of us feel the same.  The Gamers have won.  I'm out.  No big deal.
And Joker I'm with you Bud!  You Whels and I have flown many a scenario together in the same squad.  He was always my choice for XO.  They will never understand and
probably don't wish to.  Let those who talk the loudest and longest win.  I give up after reading this.  BTW I have a huge scenario patch collection.  Makes me remember.  Pity.

Hajo

[LCADolby]

Now we are getting Lobbyists involved.

MEGA SNIP

 Hajo

I normally lobby intensely for a 50/50 split in every aspect for the chance of epic gameplay. But I intend on giving myself a the best chance possible of not only flying a Spit9 to numerous easy kills but also to give the Luftwaffe as little chance possible to fight back at my glorious spit9, like holding a midget at arms length, they can swing, and that's about it. Even though I will be putting myself in the aircraft that is by far the better fighter, I think that I can feel great about myself as I wipe out all before me.

Which is why I voted how I did. Stuff balance, gameplay and fun.. who needs it! Dolby for Spit9!

 

[BFOOT1]

I used to love these events.  They were fine when Brooke and ROC wrote them up with help from the CM Staff.  Now we are getting Lobbyists involved.  This hasn't always been the norm in our Scenarios but now arguing for or against is the norm.  I'd fly them if Brooke or ROC listed kites to fly.  But now the input from the community is mostly sarcasm and fanboi side.  I've seen good people ridiculed who took the time to put a scenario together because their efforts weren't in the favor of "someones" side.

SOME PEOPLE NEED TO GROW UP!  Brooke and ROC....or anyone who takes their personal time to design and institute a Scenario deserves better then this.

Rule #1)   With the thought Brooke puts into scenarios along with other CMs the plane sets are what they are and will be historically based as close as possible.

Historically the RAF and AAC flew together in the Med.  Yes....if you read and I can give you several suggestions SpitIXs did fly in the same theater as the AAC in the Med.

Numbers however differ on how many were used.

I've given up basically on scenarios since Grosse Schlag 2.  The participants are now gamers as opposed to those of us who enjoy the history and the virtual reality that can be attained.  I don't care to read the logs for what I did.  Many of us feel the same.  The Gamers have won.  I'm out.  No big deal.
And Joker I'm with you Bud!  You Whels and I have flown many a scenario together in the same squad.  He was always my choice for XO.  They will never understand and
probably don't wish to.  Let those who talk the loudest and longest win.  I give up after reading this.  BTW I have a huge scenario patch collection.  Makes me remember.  Pity.

Hajo

Hajo, I agree with you about the history and getting immersed in the scenario. When I first started flying scenarios, that's what got me hooked was the people getting immersed into the history and the fighter groups. My first full scenario was DGSII, and I've tried to make everyone since. I always get immersed, and the only thing I try to do is make ace status. 

[TheBug]

+1 with Hajo.

This voting(or any voting) and actually this event is doing nothing to foster what was.  IMO

[Zoney]

Hajo.

Please join us for this scenario.  I believe that losing guys like you is a loss for all of us.

[Hajo]

Bug, Zoney thanks.  My feelings are this. Brooke does a fine job researching for any scenario.  What Brooke feels best is fine with me.  The only input he should receive

is from CMs that also have researched.  A good book to look at is Air War Over Italy by Andrew Brookes.  It starts in Africa.  The units were directed by a mix of RAF and

Army Air Corps Commanders and each force had RAF and AAC units.  It also included SAAF units.  So Brooke initially hit the nail on the head.  He got it right first time.

Brooke you do very very well.  I don't see any advantage to having others input in these matters.  These things usually degenerate into something I dislike.  But no matter

I'm just one player.  Hold your ground Brooke.  You always do a commendable job.  Let the players sort it out in the air.  Fighting up hill can be fun.

[Joker312]

Hajo, well said. Your comments are exactly what I have tried to convey without success.

If this gets squared away it would be an honor to fly with you again.

Thankyou.

[Guppy35]

Hajo, well said. Your comments are exactly what I have tried to convey without success.

If this gets squared away it would be an honor to fly with you again.

Thankyou.

I've got a bird for you already Joker

[branch37]

Hajo Bug all put into words what I've been thinking this whole time. I'm out to have fun and try to experience some of the history that happened at the time. That being said I'm probably flying a P-39 in this event to I'm going to die anyway. But I'm going to have fun with my squad while doing it.




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[Stampf]

Well said, Wayne.

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[Brooke]

Hajo and Joker, get on in for this one, my friends! 

This is just the design process, and the design process is like making sausage -- not what everyone wants to see. 

But . . . the end result will be great!

People can skip the making of the sausage and just partake in the delicious final result. 

The most-recent scenarios are just as good as the fine scenarios of old.  I had a blast flying even Il-2's in Dnieper, and in Southern Conquest, flying Ju 88's was right at the top of bomber fun, second to none, right to the very last seconds of the last frame, with our Ride of the Valkyries down to the beach.  It was glorious to behold! 

If the final setup here is to your liking -- and I hope and think it will be -- then you can join us for great fun!

Everyone needs you in it!

Yes!   

[Brooke]

That being said I'm probably flying a P-39 in this event

Man, I would love to be in P-39's with you!  That is my top-choice plane in this one.

I'm bringing in a handful of new players, though, and bombers or attack planes are best for them to start out in.

But --

Maybe we will see you charging to our rescue from time to time! 

It will be glorious! 

[Hajo]

Hajo, well said. Your comments are exactly what I have tried to convey without success.

If this gets squared away it would be an honor to fly with you again.

Thankyou.

Joker hey old friend!

I squawk a lot being old and grumpy.  I'll probably fly for someone in the scenario allied.  I don't wish to lead anymore after the travesty of getting 26 commitments
in a past Scenario and having only 4 show up (Grosse Schlag II).  Doesn't matter what the bird is long as it gets airborne.