No icons for AH3

[Oldman731]

How do you propose to have no icons in a three country arena?

The work-around has been to have short-range friendly (only) icons.  Shouldn't matter what country your enemy is from, so long as he's an enemy.

- oldman

[WEZEL]

2) Really, poor eyesight? who cares. Whats next? a box of hearing aides when you order the game?

Don't be a Dick

[Invictus84]

Without Icons there are no way to separate the good guys from the bad guys, it only works if you have a fixed plane set were you can tell friend from foe by identifying the plane type. But in MA that would be impossible.

This.

I reguarly play other sims where thereare no icons.  It isn't that huge of an issue (except in Battle of Stalingrad due to some engune limitations), but in those games you won't end up fighting the plane you are flying unless you are on a dueling server.   Just wont work for the MA environment unless AH goes to a AvA style MA, and I am fairly certain half the playerbase would lose their collective brownstuff over something like that.

AAaaaand that should end this thread.

[Easyscor]

What's with the idea that the Allied vs Axis arena is 'no icons' for both sides? IT ISN'T.

The standard in there is friendly icons at 3k with enemy at 0k. It would be unplayable chasing dots all over the map.

[Krupinski]

Keep icons, but remove distance indicators from enemies. 

[Invictus84]

What's with the idea that the Allied vs Axis arena is 'no icons' for both sides? IT ISN'T.

The standard in there is friendly icons at 3k with enemy at 0k. It would be unplayable chasing dots all over the map.

My bad, I thought I remembered it was no icons.

Don't agree with the idea that no icons in an Axis vs. Allies type scenario is "unplayable".   Most of the major competitors have no icons and spotting in those is at least as hard as it would be in AH, and I can argue in BoS spotting is much harder. 

[palef]

I fly in FSO all the time. I am already a member of a squadron.

People get the attitude they deserve. Video games are not made for blind people. If we had to consider every stupid fringe group every time a game got made, none would be made at all. There are already plenty of flight sims that do not use icons, but they dont have some of the other things AH has. It would be nice to remove them to make the combat more realistic. If a persons comp cant handle that, or if they cant see it due to eyesight: who cares.

We already see this attitude with AH3. With people who are utterly flabergasted they they might have to upgrade. I dont care. I dont care what your money situation is, or what you want to spend on comp parts. If you cant upgrade, then you need to accept that you are part of the past and wont be able to play anymore. It is utterly crazy for every possible improvement to the game to be sidelined or disregarded because some 1% group cant handle it for whatever reason.

Pretty much why I don't play anymore and won't let my kids play. A small part of the playerbase is so toxic they drain any enjoyment out of the boards and the game.

It's not the content of the post, it's sociopathic attitude.

[Volron]

Hmm, there is an option to turn off icons.  ALT+I x3.

BONG!  Wish Granted!


If you want a no-icon thing for everyone, go to the AvA.  Last I was in there, they ran no-icon.  Otherwise, no.


With upgrading a machine; I can understand life situations (med bills, car repairs, etc.), but if you have the ability to upgrade and won't for some obscure reason, then it's your fault.  Example: You can't come here and cry about not being able to play a game that's been updated beyond your machine's ability when you opted to spend that money on sports tickets/season passes instead.

[captain1ma]

For the record, the AVA in AH2 is NOT a NO ICONS ARENA. it is a Friendly icons only arena. it is more realistic.
this goes to plane identification as was stated earlier.

all different icons have been tried in AH2 AVA. no friendly or enemy icons. 3k each friendly and enemy. 6k friendly, 1.5 enemy. all of them.  our standard is 3k friendly and No Enemy icons. that doesn't mean its permanent, its just our standard.

now tonight we've had  AVA wars-- battle for Europe in AH3 AVA. even with no ENEMY icons, you can see the planes without any problems. plain as day. just no icon.
see link for details--http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,380549.0.html


if you want to see it in action, come to the AH3 AVA next Saturday night and you'll get to see for yourself.

one guy said it was more challenging, but you could distinctly see the enemy planes. so you can go with whatever your preference is, but
with or without enemy icons, theres no problems seeing any plane in AH3.

for the record, we've thoroughly tested the icons in AH3 before trying it. many people prefer to play with icons. we, in the AVA, try to make it
more realistic. AH3 is the answer to that wish! 

[Coalcat1]

A fine example of a millennial you make.

Really? You had to go there?

[Scca]

Really? You had to go there?

What?  He likely took it as a compliment.

[LCADolby]

Keep icons, but remove distance indicators from enemies. 

I like it

[Karnak]

For the record, the AVA in AH2 is NOT a NO ICONS ARENA. it is a Friendly icons only arena. it is more realistic.

It is not more realistic.  It is less realistic.  This has been demonstrated repeatedly.

[LCADolby]

It is not more realistic.  It is less realistic.  This has been demonstrated repeatedly.

Indeed, in the AvA it would be more realistic to remove icons completely.
When I look out of my window into the sky there are no aircraft with icons. I have to look at their shape and decide what they are.

[Lusche]

When I look out of my window into the sky there are no aircraft with icons. I have to look at their shape and decide what they are.

And in real life, you can do that. On a standard computer screen, you don't. At least not at 'realistic real life' distances. Human eyesight is far better then the resolution offered by a screen.
As had been said before, no icons would only realistically simulate a visually impaired pilot. But if you really want to simulate that...