Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves

[Wiley]

I did get the P-47M and eventually the F4UA-1 to fly backwards so I must have been doing something differently, probably flaps, when they wouldn't rotate before.

Not quite sure if you're saying that's new behavior, but the F4Us were easy to get to fly backwards in 2 as well.  I used to be able to do it at will and quite often unintentionally if I pressed a rolling scissor too hard in AHII.  Just trying to add info.

Wiley.

[nrshida]

Yes, there is an improvement in the prop model but it doesn't affect single engine snap rolls as much as I suspected.

You'd make a fine politician. Can you or can you not depart at will as easily as you could in AHII?

[FLS]

You'd make a fine politician. Can you or can you not depart at will as easily as you could in AHII?

I answered your question clearly and accurately. "Can you depart as easily?" is a different question. It refers to stalling the wing and has little to do with what happens next which is the expression of forces no longer in balance.

[nrshida]

it doesn't affect single engine snap rolls as much as I suspected.

Then quantify how much it actually affects it. Can you still do the same moves as AHII or not?

[FLS]

Then quantify how much it actually affects it. Can you still do the same moves as AHII or not?

I did get the P-47M and eventually the F4UA-1 to fly backwards so I must have been doing something differently, probably flaps, when they wouldn't rotate before.

[nrshida]

So you were wrong in your ealier statement is what you're saying. HiTech was right and you just perceived it incorrectly likely in accord with other environmental changes. AND on the side there was a minor change to the prop model which does not affect the flight model?

[FLS]

So you were wrong in your ealier statement is what you're saying. HiTech was right and you just perceived it incorrectly likely in accord with other environmental changes. AND on the side there was a minor change to the prop model which does not affect the flight model?

Finally you tell us what's really on your mind.   

Hitech said I was right that the prop model change is a flight model change. Does that make you wrong again?

[FLS]

Not quite sure if you're saying that's new behavior, but the F4Us were easy to get to fly backwards in 2 as well.  I used to be able to do it at will and quite often unintentionally if I pressed a rolling scissor too hard in AHII.  Just trying to add info.

Wiley.

Falling backwards is relatively easy. It's ascending backwards that's difficult. Here the F4U is going sideways as well as up. There's a similar move in the video but the second time I over-rotate.

[nrshida]

See rule #4

[FLS]

See rule #4

[nrshida]

See rule #4

[nrshida]

See rule #4

[Invictus84]

Falling backwards is relatively easy. It's ascending backwards that's difficult. Here the F4U is going sideways as well as up. There's a similar move in the video but the second time I over-rotate.

Ummm.....yeah.

Is this or a similar video posted somewhere showing this behavior?

[FLS]

Youtube link under avatar.

Also check out Rob Holland on Youtube.   

[icepac]

Is the CoFl the same in ah3 arenas as ah2?