JUST DO IT

[Flametux]

Every product listed in the thread is a game just the same as AH. The only differences is what is emphasized in the simulation.

As far as making a more accurate claim. I have never seen any data posted that shows any other game is as accurate as AH in performance and handling flight modeling.

HiTech

https://youtu.be/ecokj6MJTDE?t=2m38s

Just FYI, Eagle Dynamics surpassed the the flight modeling and graphics of AH3 back in 2003 with their game "Lock On Modern Air Combat". They were a small company too back then, and managed to draw in many new players because their game was actually interesting and fun. 

[Krupinski]

Seriously though, this doesn't make any sense:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCVK3nhkOAg

[Invictus84]

Seriously though, this doesn't make any sense:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCVK3nhkOAg

   Maybe flaps and torque?   

[Krupinski]

You don't see me rolling with almost no air going over the ailerons? lol

[Invictus84]

You don't see me rolling with almost no air going over the ailerons? lol

Um, yes.

(I'm trying to give the FM the benefit of doubt.  Work with me, man!)

[guncrasher]

https://youtu.be/ecokj6MJTDE?t=2m38s

Just FYI, Eagle Dynamics surpassed the the flight modeling and graphics of AH3 back in 2003 with their game "Lock On Modern Air Combat". They were a small company too back then, and managed to draw in many new players because their game was actually interesting and fun. 

how many players on at the same time?

semp

[Invictus84]

how many players on at the same time?

semp

Not nearly as many as AH.  LoMAC was the great-grandfather to DCS World's Flaming Cliffs 3 module.  FC3 , like LoMAC, lets you fly the F-15C, Su-27, Su-33, two versions of the MiG-29, Su-35 and A-10A (not the A-10C, which is a separate module).  Unlike other DCS modules, the Flaming Cliffs airplanes do not have interactive cockpits or complex flight models. 

[Invictus84]

Also in defense of AH, I should point out AH netcode is in many ways far better than many of these other games.  DCS netcode, for example, is notorious for its warping.  This can be a real problem for formation flying or combat.  Fast forward to 3:20 in this video for an example:



Also, it really isn't fair to compare a WWII prop sim like AH with a game which attempts to simulate modern air combat like DCS.  Yes, both have 'fighters' but that is where the similarity ends.  It is like trying to compare Spaghetti and Meatballs with Fettuccine Alfredo: both have pasta in them but they are very different meals.

[Daubie]

how many players on at the same time?

semp

That's exactly why I came back over here---player numbers.

Aces High's server in what DCS calls "Multiplayer" (servers) has way more numbers (people) volume compared to what DCS has to offer.  Aces High is a bit more arcade in comparison to DCS World, but what's the fun in fighting against just a handful of the same guys all the time?  I have all the DCS WWII aircraft.  I usually fly the copters in DCS, usually the Ka-50 and usually using the 104th Phoenix's server.

I played Aces High for 4 or 5 years, switched to DCS since about 2011, came back over couple days ago and have forgotten the game here, but it will come back.  Aces High III looks to be rather nice.

I have read most of this thread.  The naysayers should purchase one of the DCS WWII aircraft, set it up and fly it around before knocking DCS.

There are currently 3 dedicated servers catering to the WWII era crowd.  The DOW (Dogs of War) server is the better server when their squad is on.

The quality of the DCS game depends on what you got as to the PC hardware end.  If you have a light weight setup you will suffer the consequences.

I will play both sims.

[Chalenge]

how many players on at the same time?

semp

It doesn't matter. DCS is so riddled with bugs, non-functional systems, and a bogus (that's right, I said bogus) flight model. The exact same concept in flight models was available very early on in another game called Fighter Duel. The only thing DCS has introduced is an expansion of aircraft and graphics.

Computers are still at this time unable to recreate the reality of flight. Each and every flight simulator, combat or otherwise, has its own strengths and weaknesses.

I believe Aces High 3 is the best environment, not because of realism but because of "entertainment." DCS falls flat when it comes to entertainment. When it is new and fresh it's great. After you have flown everything in that simulator it's just like furballing in Aces High (any genre). You can name any other title. The entertainment value is gone after some period of time.

Aces High 3 has much, much more to offer. That's what it boils down to.

(EDIT) And before you mention cockpit fidelity let me ask this: Do you really think Hitech cannot add switches and knobs? That would not add a single thing to this game. The entertainment value added by switches and knobs is gone after the 'new-ness' factor wears off.

[FLS]

Seriously though, this doesn't make any sense:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCVK3nhkOAg

Try it with smoke on or turn trails on in AHfilm. The moving camera creates illusions. I have DCS. It's ok flying but it's not Aces High. It is clearly the best A-10 simulation.

[Krupinski]

Try it with smoke on or turn trails on in AHfilm. The moving camera creates illusions. I have DCS. It's ok flying but it's not Aces High. It is clearly the best A-10 simulation.

I was the one flying the plane and making it do that crazy stuff, yes I could recreate those maneuvers after the fact. It's not an 'illusion', it's exactly what it looks like...

[FLS]

The illusion I refer to is from the moving camera. With smoke or tracks you see the aircraft flight path and relative wind but in the cockpit or on video you seem to hang in space.

Two of my videos have fixed camera views and moving camera views of the same film. You can see how things look different but with smoke you still see the relative wind.