Manned ack should count as a kill?

[gflyer]

Then my wish would be that when I get killed by a gun, manned or unmanned, it is the same message and I have no idea if it was AI or a person and that my last killer remains unchanged.  I don't care if they keep the landed kill messages. 

As for the flying in the ack thing.. Puhlease.. Taking bases is an important aspect of this game, suppressing bases included.  I have zero problem with guns, manned or unmanned. 

[haggerty]

Field guns do not have a kill count. Guns do not have a death count. Guns do not have hit %. GUNS ARE NOT SCORED IN ANY WAY.
If you only gun you will show zero sorties in all categories. And be ranked last in all categories.

HiTech

Just looking at one player, he has 97 kills in "Ship Gunner" and 0 deaths.  So someone is counting them.

[gflyer]

Had to go in the game, looks like all of those things are recorded for field gunners.. except the died in part.

[Lusche]

Just looking at one player, he has 97 kills in "Ship Gunner" and 0 deaths.  So someone is counting them.

That's just the killstats. They still do not count for score.

[gflyer]

See rule #4

[haggerty]

See rule #4

[gflyer]

Wow, fast rule 4.. I modified it as soon as I realized it sounded mean..

Anyway.. this is all about the kills... end dot..

[hitech]

Wow, fast rule 4.. I modified it as soon as I realized it sounded mean..

Anyway.. this is all about the kills... end dot..

So can I assume you also want kills when you call auto guns?

HiTech

[haggerty]

That's just the killstats. They still do not count for score.

I know, its not about score.  People care about kills and deaths these days.

[gflyer]

Lets see..are autoguns controlled by a human?

[gflyer]

When a guy shoots me down in his ack, his name as my last killer shows up?  Are there not kills in the score listing for field guns?  Or is that all just in my head? There is a whole list of names with kills awarded on the stats page in ship gunner..No kills awarded?  Ahh you still think this is about score.

Fair:
Human A can kill Human B.
Human B can kill Human A.

Not so much:
Human A can kill Human B.
Human B cant kill Human A.

8.4K gun kills of Humans this tour and counting.. Not one killed in the effort.

[Vraciu]

Once again , inaccurate hyperbole.

HiTech

Actually, it is 100% accurate.   

I can just about deack an entire base when it is auto ack only.  Let some sniper like Popeye or Kingpin man a gun and I have a wing coming off or a PK pretty fast.

[Vraciu]

As more direct answer to hitech, it is not about the score. If you take scoring out and just focus on the human aspect of it.  Manned guns are currently a one sided affair, a low risk, low investment one at that. 

Exactly correct. 

Score in this game is extremely broken, people care about not dieing.  Someone who ups in a manned gun has zero chance of dieing but a very high chance of adding to their kill count.  If people get a death for dieing in a manned gun I guarantee we'd see alot more people upping in actual vehicles and planes to defend their bases.

Or a high chance of harming someone's score without risk.   The risk/reward should have some balance to it.  That's what most everyone here is saying.

[hitech]

What was I thinking, this is exactly why I normally do not comment in wish list topics.

I'm out.

And it's not changing.

HiTech

[Vraciu]

What was I thinking, this is exactly why I normally do not comment in wish list topics.

I'm out.

And it's not changing.

HiTech

Your comments are (for the most part) enlightening, appreciated, and welcome.     Sorry you are frustrated by some of us (me).