New GV dar

[Electroman]

A few things Elec.  You are starting to embarass yourself going on about this.  I thought you were a bit more of a scrapper and a lot less of a whiner.  Every time I have ever run into you, you have fought.  Something to be admired in this game.  You do need to note that not everyone kills GV's with bombs.  Further most of us that know how to hunt GV's still do it the way we always have prior to the addition of GV Dar.  However if I cannot find a vehicle within a reasonable amount of time I will use the new tool to narrow the search.  I will not spend my whole night playing whack a mole.  It's just not fun.

See you up there,

Waystin2

Waystin,

Respectfully sir - it's not a "whine" - it's a legitimate fact that it changed the game immensely for the GV players. There are a lot of people upset about it and many people have voiced their opinions or thoughts on at least if it is to stay maybe how to balance it slightly. There would be more opinions voiced as well but not all my squaddies are on the forums (as well as others).

At any rate like I said before I'll simply make it a point to do much more bomb****ing now. And don't worry - I'm still a scrapper and happy to give you a run for your money against your 262 again with my buffs anytime

 

[Dundee]

Waystin,

Respectfully sir - it's not a "whine" - it's a legitimate fact that it changed the game immensely for the GV players. There are a lot of people upset about it and many people have voiced their opinions or thoughts on at least if it is to stay maybe how to balance it slightly. There would be more opinions voiced as well but not all my squaddies are on the forums (as well as others).

At any rate like I said before I'll simply make it a point to do much more bomb****ing now. And don't worry - I'm still a scrapper and happy to give you a run for your money against your 262 again with my buffs anytime


If memory serves me right..... In AH II even your own squad mates couldn't see you on the map, let alone tank icons and dar........what a way to screw up a game

 

[molybdenum]

I really hope this thread dies.

The reason the thread's going on for as long as is has is because the GV dar is such a paradigm shift. People have unsubscribed from the game because of it, and others have hinted they might. I know of no one who GVs primarily that likes it at all.
My forlorn hope is that HT decides it does more harm than good and gets rid of it.

[Ciaphas]

If that’s all it takes for someone to cancel their sub, were they really committed in the first place?

It’s like the kid who doesn’t get their way and takes his toys and goes home.




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[8thJinx]

The reason the thread's going on for as long as is has is because the GV dar is such a paradigm shift. People have unsubscribed from the game because of it, and others have hinted they might. I know of no one who GVs primarily that likes it at all.
My forlorn hope is that HT decides it does more harm than good and gets rid of it.

If it helps business, it will stay.  Long term, that will be the deciding factor.  I honestly don't have a problem with it, especially if it results in new players.  I have a bigger problem with the converted maps and how they lost the magic.  But that's not HTC's gig.  That is squarely a map making thing, and there are people diligently working on the problem.

The issue some people are having boils down to two words: "being found."  It was a whole lot easier to find a GV in AH2.  I can't even remember what the trees looked like in AH2, there were so few of them.  It was like driving a tank down a fairway, for cripes sake.  And for the love of all things holy, the only thing you need to do to stop the bombs from falling on you is to take out the ord bunkers.

[wil3ur]

And for the love of all things holy, the only thing you need to do to stop the bombs from falling on you is to take out the ord bunkers.

But how can I take down the ord bunkers if I'm sitting in a bush spawn camping waiting for noskill kills?

HiTech should get rid of ord or I'm cancelling my sub.

[Devil 505]

The reason the thread's going on for as long as is has is because the GV dar is such a paradigm shift. People have unsubscribed from the game because of it, and others have hinted they might. I know of no one who GVs primarily that likes it at all.
My forlorn hope is that HT decides it does more harm than good and gets rid of it.

I'll just quote myself from earlier.

Bunch of guys quit a combat game because it's harder or them to avoid combat. That's addition via subtraction in my book.

 

My hope is that HTC gets not just enough new subs to cover the loss of the cowards and quitters, but enough that it will encourage them to continue rooting out other ways that players also avoid combat.

[Dundee]

My hope is that HTC gets not just enough new subs to cover the loss of the cowards and quitters, but enough that it will encourage them to continue rooting out other ways that players also avoid combat.

Big talk from a guy who never shows up in a GV .....bring it.....I dare you
 

[Devil 505]

Nah, I'm good. I don't waste time on bad gameplay.

I'd rather do something more entertaining than GV'ing - like ironing my socks.

[Ciaphas]

Here’s an idea, get with your fellow GV’ers and air drivers and formulate tactics to strengthen your game play. It’s all about adapting and as many of you are great GV’ers through self identification, this should be a simple task.


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[wil3ur]

Nah, I'm good. I don't waste time on bad gameplay.

I'd rather do something more entertaining than GV'ing - like ironing my socks.

 

[molybdenum]

If that’s all it takes for someone to cancel their sub, were they really committed in the first place?

Here’s an idea, get with your fellow GV’ers and air drivers and formulate tactics to strengthen your game play. It’s all about adapting and as many of you are great GV’ers through self identification, this should be a simple task.

1) I played AH for ~5 years, and for the last 3 of those I was on a minimum of four hours a day, seven days a week. Yeah, I know, that means I have issues, but clearly "commitment" isn't one of them.
2) No, it's not "all about adapting." It's about having fun. If the game were to suddenly turn and be less balanced in favor of GVers (as it has now become less balanced in the favor of bomb****s), pilots like Devil505 would be complaining too, and rightfully so. You're expecting that people who had their favorite toys taken away from them will find new toys to play with. Many will--electroman is going to focus more on bombing GVs now, for example, because the game has given bomb****s a new and distinct advantage. Other players will say "Ah, well, it's been a fun five years" and move on.
When I 1st played AH I knew virtually nothing. I gradually discovered what I liked and what I was good at and focused on those things. If those things are neutered, I have the choice to spend $15/mo to try to like something else, or use the time and money to do things I already know I like. The only reason the decision to leave was difficult was I'll miss some of the people I played with....

[Ack-Ack]

Wow, so many tears from people having to face the prospect of combat in a PvP game.

[Ciaphas]

1) I played AH for ~5 years, and for the last 3 of those I was on a minimum of four hours a day, seven days a week. Yeah, I know, that means I have issues, but clearly "commitment" isn't one of them.
2) No, it's not "all about adapting." It's about having fun. If the game were to suddenly turn and be less balanced in favor of GVers (as it has now become less balanced in the favor of bomb****s), pilots like Devil505 would be complaining too, and rightfully so. You're expecting that people who had their favorite toys taken away from them will find new toys to play with. Many will--electroman is going to focus more on bombing GVs now, for example, because the game has given bomb****s a new and distinct advantage. Other players will say "Ah, well, it's been a fun five years" and move on.
When I 1st played AH I knew virtually nothing. I gradually discovered what I liked and what I was good at and focused on those things. If those things are neutered, I have the choice to spend $15/mo to try to like something else, or use the time and money to do things I already know I like. The only reason the decision to leave was difficult was I'll miss some of the people I played with....

Grow up, it’s a game


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[Electroman]

Wow - some real childish responses to a real problem with the game...nice.

Say what you will...but the fact is we're losing players now because of it. In fact...one of my long time squaddies called in today and cancelled his subscription which I just found out.