Roe Overturned

[guncrasher]

If I have a baby, I'll help that life grow. If you have one then YOU should help that life grow. And if you can't afford a baby, you shouldn't be dumb enough to have one.

Why do you guys always expect a handout for EVERYBODY?  Handouts teach people to live off of my tax dollars - which is money involuntarily seized from me and distributed to lazy bellybutton bums in a lot of cases.

Really, I'm not against taxes. That's what makes our country work. However, the government will never have enough of our money. The more they suck from us the more they waste.

This shirt starts with the family and properly raising responsible people. Work hard and be responsible.

Sometimes people do need help. Churches and communities have traditionally provided for people in need.

we all get handouts honey, we just don't call them that.

have you paid enough taxes to pay for those roads, you drive on, do you think your parents paid enough taxes to pay your first 12 years of school, assuming you weren't home schooled, do you think you have paid enough taxes to pay for ss retirement benefits, while at same time pay for police, fire department, roads, I can go on and on.

trust me you haven't paid enough taxes to pay for what you have taken already.  but all of us together can.


semp

[-gg-]

Wow. You have no concept of taxes.

Are you asking me if I paid for all the roads I drive on personally? You can't be serious.  I pay taxes and some people do not. I paid my fair share and I have every bit as much skin in the game as anyone else.

You probably orgasmed when Obama said "you didn't build that" referring to infrastructure. "we" sure as diddly DID build that. All of us did. All Americans who paid taxes or worked on those projects DID build that.

93% of the federal government's revenue comes from taxes. 50% from individual taxes, 36 percent from payroll taxes and 7 percent from corporate taxes.

[guncrasher]

right so what if we used a bit of that to make sure kids don't go hungry.

or you just willing to use it on things you need?

semp

[-gg-]

How many kids are starving in the United States? We already make sure kids don't starve.

Jesus. You are like totally uninformed. Or maybe just purposely ridiculous. Typical Liberal. Ignoring reality and complaining about non-existent problems.

[TyFoo]

How many kids are starving in the United States? We already make sure kids don't starve.

Jesus. You are like totally uninformed. Or maybe just purposely ridiculous. Typical Liberal. Ignoring reality and complaining about non-existent problems.

Whats source are you using? Because that has not been my experience for the last 20+ years.

[-gg-]

Whats source are you using? Because that has not been my experience for the last 20+ years.

my diddlying brain and my common sense.

Prove me wrong.

[-gg-]

How many people do you think die from hunger each year in the united states? How many malnourished and starving American kids have you ever seen?

[TyFoo]

You can use a broad brush to paint an idea of what you think you know, or dont. If you want to know how many people die each year of hunger, I am sure Google can provide you a couple hundred pages of stats by various sources.

From personal experience, I can share that we have about 17,000 kids in our school district. In the 5 Elementary schools that are nearest, over 2 dozen volunteers from our School alone provide just over 200 Sack lunches every Friday, delivered to select children of these elementary schools that range from grades 1 - 4, that have been identified needing assistance. These lunches are an attempt to help the kids get through the weekend, which of course it doesn't.

How many of these 7,8,9 & 10 yr olds are gaming the system? I do not know. I live in a conservative, affluent area. So it isn't hard to spot those that have and those that do not.

So when you say that "We already make sure kids don't starve." I repeat, that has not been my experience.

[-gg-]

Actually I did Google, how many people die of starvation in the United States each year and there are no results. I'm guessing because it's so rare that they wouldn't have results.

Of all those kids that you're talking about in school, have you ever seen a walking skeleton? A malnourished starving kid?

[zack1234]

If you have 5 kids by 5 different men the kids should be taken off them and they should be sterilised.

The so called liberal makes a tidy living dealing with the supposed oppressed.

We have the same issue in the UK a underclass with no purpose except to give a living to a middle class job providing social welfare system.

The fact that the majority of black male fatherless  youths cannot read is a form of slavery which allows for no chance of betterment.

The fact that you Americans are obsessed by race is hilarious.

Our propaganda ministries try that game on us in the UK but we think it’s hilarious.

If women want to destroy their offspring who gives a damn, Madonna and Jane Fonda will support their choices

More black unborn are destroyed than are born

George Floyd the attacker of pregnant women was buried in a gold coffin

Nothing just happens

No wonder Clinton and rest despise you.

[RotBaron]

The fact that you Americans are obsessed by race is hilarious.

Actually it’s so insidious, insincere and counterfeit that it’s turning into the demise of the USA.

[Eagler]

I think childhood obesity is a larger issue in America than children starving..lol

Malnutrition...sure..many adults too as they have to work very hard at getting and staying that large

Eagler

[FLS]

Can't believe some of the commentary in this thread.  So women shouldn't get to decide what happens with their body?  I don't see anyone screaming for universal health care, child  care, improved education etc.  Pay for housing for single parents?  As anyone who is a parent knows, this isn't cheap.  But I don't see any of the pro-birth crowd pushing any of  these things to help take care of kids they demand be born regardless of the cost to the parent.

How many of you are willing to adopt a child regardless of health?  Rape and Incest victims have to carry the baby to birth?  I'm guessing the same folks pro-birth are death penalty fans too.  As some folks know, my wife who is a nurse, found an abandoned baby who had been left to die because of the birth defects he had.  We figured we could get that part taken care of in the US.  Of course he was an immigrant,and the wrong color for many of the right wing wackos, but that's beside the point.  On top of the visible cleft lip and pallet, it turned out our little man is profoundly deaf, has Charge Syndrome, and is developmentally delayed.  Thankfully we have a good home, and a family support system that helps us raise Matthew.  I ended up having to give up my job to stay home and take care of him as he can get explosive at times.  I can handle him when that happens and keep him and us safe.  I love my son and anyone who knows me knows that.  Having said that, there are times where I wonder if we did him any favors by keeping him alive.  His quality of life will never be what my other kids had no matter how hard we work at it.  Feeding him through a G-tube, knowing that he'll never be able to be independent.

Again, we have the family support system that helps me keep going as my 24/7 day is now taking care of my son. 

But what about those kids who end up forced to give birth and are single parents, dealing with their own issues and don't have the resources to give that baby a chance?  What about pregnancies that involve kids with birth defects or the parent is an addict? 

Until we as a country are willing to spend the money for health care, housing, education, and there are enough people willing to provide the homes for those babies regardless of health issues, then pretending that outlawing abortion is the humane thing to do is BS.  It will end up in the back alley's again, and women will die needlessly.  And if you aren't willing to take on one of those babies, then shut the hell up.  Talk is cheap.

Nobody outlawed abortion. The Supreme Court properly decided that the Constitution did not see abortion as a right and abortion was an issue for the individual states not the federal government. Some states ban elective abortion but they all still allow it for special reasons.

The rights of women are considered in the abortion issue but so is the right of the child. Acknowledging the right of the child is not denying women's rights. But Roe was about federal government over-reach and the restoration of state sovereignty, not abortion per se.

[Arlo]

Replace the word 'abortion' with the words 'women's bodily autonomy' and tell yourself that it's all about state's rights. Kinda like slavery.

[FLS]

Replace the word 'abortion' with the words 'women's bodily autonomy' and tell yourself that it's all about state's rights. Kinda like slavery.

Replace the word abortion and there isn't a child's life at issue. Do you see how that is different?

In any case, the decision wasn't about abortion, it was about the rule of law as defined by the Constitution.