Follow the science

[Arlo]

I understand.. You wanted the title all to yourself.

I guess I shouldn't have asked you how that was so. Tell me what question can you answer straightforwardly and I'll ask that, just as politely. 

[MiloMorai]

Obfuscation, thy name is Milo.

ob·fus·ca·tion
[ˌäbfəˈskāSH(ə)n]
NOUN
the action of making something obscure, unclear, or unintelligible:

Your question 'abortion law in Canada' was answered. Not my problem you can't understand what was said.

[Busher]

Roe addressed the issue based upon the privacy rights of a woman. Consider the impact Gents, should the SCOTUS start examining and changing the privacy rights of men.

[sparky127]

The 10th nicely and handily covers everything not addressed.  Stop parroting what you heard someone screech on msnbc.

[RotBaron]

at six weeks there's no heart, no heart beat. what you have is cells that will eventually become the heart having electrical activity my own words not a doctor. 

so follow the science is ambiguity.


semp

So you know more about cardiogenic development in utero than doctors and scientists? 🤦‍♂️

The human heart is the first functional organ to develop. It begins beating and pumping blood around day 21 or 22, a mere three weeks after fertilization. - Oregon State University

^ the full read:

https://open.oregonstate.education/aandp/chapter/19-5-development-of-the-heart/

[RotBaron]

but the original question mentions heart beat. there's no heartbeat since there's no heart at 6 weeks.  follow the science.


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When Does a Fetus Develop a Heartbeat?
Through the use of ultrasounds, modern science can detect the waves of the baby’s heartbeat as early as three weeks after fertilization. Although the child’s organs have not yet fully formed, soon after this three-week mark the heart beats about 110 times per minute.

https://www.hli.org/resources/when-does-a-fetus-develop-a-heartbeat/

[FLS]

Can you point out the specific part of the Constitution where it says the wall of separation between the church (which church?) and the state shall not be infringed? It shouldn't be too hard.  In fact, something as important as that should be enumerated, right?

That's cute. What do you believe the Establishment Clause does?

[guncrasher]

So you know more about cardiogenic development in utero than doctors and scientists? 🤦‍♂️

The human heart is the first functional organ to develop. It begins beating and pumping blood around day 21 or 22, a mere three weeks after fertilization. - Oregon State University

^ the full read:

https://open.oregonstate.education/aandp/chapter/19-5-development-of-the-heart/

if it's beating and fully formed, why cant doctor's detect a sound with a stethoscope like with you can me.  in fact what you call heart beat is an ultrasound and the machine itself makes the sound.  not the heart. since the heart is not fully formed yet.  not until close to the 3rd trimester is the heart fully developed.



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[RotBaron]

if it's beating and fully formed, why cant doctor's detect a sound with a stethoscope like with you can me.  in fact what you call heart beat is an ultrasound and the machine itself makes the sound.  not the heart. since the heart is not fully formed yet.  not until close to the 3rd trimester is the heart fully developed.



semp

Guess you didn’t read the links…

Who is your source and is it from a pro-abortion standpoint or abortion provider?

[guncrasher]

Guess you didn’t read the links…

Who is your source and is it from a pro-abortion standpoint or abortion provider?

I am pro life, but I dont make decisions for others.

please I would ask you to show me a picture of a fully developed heart beating at 6 weeks or before.  pretty sure there's lots of ultrasounds that will show a fully formed heart at this stage.  i"ll wait.


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[guncrasher]

just to give you a little history about me.  I had a vasectomy at 32, because I couldnt afford to have another child.  it cost me my marriage but i felt it was the right thing to do.  my late wife had health problems so she didnt want children, so she got her tubes  tied at age 34 and went on the pill just to make sure. both me and her went against our church. that was our choice.

I dont force my choice or hers on others.  I am ready to answer to my higher power for my own choices just like my wife did.

but I will never force my choice on others.


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[RotBaron]

If you found a single cell organism on mars, is that life?

He doesn’t answer questions that might conflict with his personal beliefs.

Claims he’s pro-life but supports elective abortions 

[sparky127]

That's cute. What do you believe the Establishment Clause does?

The "establishment clause" is is an early attempt by slimy politicians to circumvent the obvious intentions of the framers. If the Founders had wanted a so-called "separation of church (which church?) and state" they would have put it in in no uncertain term (like "shall not be infringed").  But they didn't...

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Pretty simple really...  There will be no "official church of the US" and .gov shall not prevent anyone from exercising whatever flavor religion they desire (even silently saying a prayer after a football game).  The intent, if you can read, is plain to see; ALL limitations in the constitution are on the .gov, not the people.  The 1st Amendment keeps government out of religion, not religion out of government. That privileged, white, slave-owning racist bigot Jefferson is a hero of mine but he really screwed the pooch when he copped out and didn't just tell those goofy baptists that he didn't feel like getting involved in their silly local squabble, and instead claimed... golly gee, I'd really like to help but my hands are tied by this imaginary wall of separation....  What a puss.

[sparky127]

I am pro life, but I dont make decisions for others.

please I would ask you to show me a picture of a fully developed heart beating at 6 weeks or before.  pretty sure there's lots of ultrasounds that will show a fully formed heart at this stage.  i"ll wait.


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You're pro choice.

[Shuffler]

For a Christian backed country we are hypocrites when it comes to abortion and the death penalty

We kinda twist that commandment to fit as needed

Eagler

For those that commit murder, and eye for an eye.