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Offline CptTrips

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Re: Who wants a secure border?
« Reply #120 on: July 11, 2022, 12:23:03 PM »
Or you could look up the illegal migrant population increase over the same period?  Or were they parachuted in?

Do you have that chart?

Does it prove migrants don't have babies?

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Re: Who wants a secure border?
« Reply #121 on: July 11, 2022, 12:26:35 PM »
A rational person might think this was your 'point':

A rational person wouldn't make a ridiculous claim like this ...

Actually those numbers don't say anything about the rate of border crossings.  It is simply the numbers of cases where the CBP intercepted migrants.


So you could just as easily argue this show border security has been stepped up and the current administration is putting much more effort in to secure borders than the previous guy who put most of his effort into playing golf at his hotels.


Everyone knows what is going on down there.  Instead of trying to spin facts, just embrace this border disaster and admit you are for jamming as many illegals as possible into the country.       
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Re: Who wants a secure border?
« Reply #122 on: July 11, 2022, 12:29:07 PM »

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Re: Who wants a secure border?
« Reply #123 on: July 11, 2022, 12:30:04 PM »
A rational person wouldn't make a ridiculous claim like this ... 


I made no claim other than the chart is not a graph of the number you think it is. 

which is in the title of the data you actually posted yourself.

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Re: Who wants a secure border?
« Reply #124 on: July 11, 2022, 12:31:22 PM »
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I've got an idea.  Show me the data that supports you claims. 
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Re: Who wants a secure border?
« Reply #125 on: July 11, 2022, 12:33:00 PM »
I've got an idea.  Show me the data that supports you claims.

I make no claim other than you can't read the title on the data you posted yourself.

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Re: Who wants a secure border?
« Reply #126 on: July 11, 2022, 12:33:23 PM »
I've got an idea.  Show me the data that supports you claims.

Shall I just repost yours and once again say that yours doesn't support yours ... because that's my claim.  :)

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Re: Who wants a secure border?
« Reply #127 on: July 11, 2022, 12:37:22 PM »

I made no claim other than the chart is not a graph of the number you think it is. 

which is in the title of the data you actually posted yourself.

But you know illegals are entering this country at an alarming rate.  You just choose to ignore it.  Do you think the massive uptick in crossings is because they think they will be caught?  Why the massive uptick to begin with? 
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Re: Who wants a secure border?
« Reply #128 on: July 11, 2022, 12:38:31 PM »
I make no claim other than you can't read the title on the data you posted yourself.

Or you have no data and nothing more than a liberal troll? 
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Re: Who wants a secure border?
« Reply #129 on: July 11, 2022, 12:40:27 PM »
Shall I just repost yours and once again say that yours doesn't support yours ... because that's my claim.  :)

So you have nothing?  Just waiting for me to come back numbers that support what everyone already knows?  Sounds about right.     
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Re: Who wants a secure border?
« Reply #130 on: July 11, 2022, 12:41:51 PM »
Dang, Rush. You're a bit wound up. If you've got a point to prove then prove it. Don't think you can/did then stick to your guns when you can't, man.  :)

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Re: Who wants a secure border?
« Reply #131 on: July 11, 2022, 12:46:02 PM »
Or you have no data and nothing more than a liberal troll?

I have nothing I'm trying to prove, so there is no data I need to post.

I'm simply pointing out the chart data you posted denotes CBP interceptions and not rate of crossings (which can't really be known).

It is in the title of the very data you posted.

It could either be a steady percentage of interceptions over a larger volume. or increased effectiveness to intercept over a steady rate of crossings.

Nothing in that data gives any indication of which that is.  Regardless of what you claim.




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Re: Who wants a secure border?
« Reply #132 on: July 11, 2022, 01:04:28 PM »
Dang, Rush. You're a bit wound up. If you've got a point to prove then prove it. Don't think you can/did then stick to your guns when you can't, man.  :)

I have nothing I'm trying to prove, so there is no data I need to post.

I'm simply pointing out the chart data you posted denotes CBP interceptions and not rate of crossings (which can't really be known).

It is in the title of the very data you posted.

It could either be a steady percentage of interceptions over a larger volume. or increased effectiveness to intercept over a steady rate of crossings.

Nothing in that data gives any indication of which that is.  Regardless of what you claim.



I've got to work, but this didn't take long.  This is only through July, '21, but still enough of a timeline to back up my claim.  I'll try to find some more data beyond these dates when I can.  Maybe even a census report.  You two have a wonderful rest of the day. 

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/08/13/migrant-encounters-at-u-s-mexico-border-are-at-a-21-year-high/ft_21-08-05_usmexicoborder_3a/
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Re: Who wants a secure border?
« Reply #133 on: July 11, 2022, 01:06:07 PM »
I've got to work, but this didn't take long.  This is only through July, '21, but still enough of a timeline to back up my claim.  I'll try to find some more data beyond these dates when I can.  Maybe even a population census report.  You two have a wonderful rest of the day.     


I look forward to you posing better data and understanding what it means.

Have a nice day, Sparky.
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Re: Who wants a secure border?
« Reply #134 on: July 11, 2022, 01:07:20 PM »

I look forward to you posing better data and understanding what it means.

Have a nice day, Sparky.

Please feel free to critique the numbers in this article. 
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