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I remember your account in the Bigweek news group about your trip with (I think it was) Aretha Franklin.  That was a fun read.

- oldman

It was fun telling them to people who were interested. You guys in BW literally watched me run through my peak, both in career and the game stuff I did. She was more less towards the end of my list. In BW I musta been told 30-40 times to write a book. I started one, then things went south in RL and it never finished.

I remember my first story here, most thought it was embellishing BS. I was just used to people wanting to read it.

Nevertheless, that was probably my prime.

A lot missing off this old list started in 03, never finished this either. lol

But ya, I probably ran through a 100-200 of these bands while on BW and you guys got to watch it. Never thought I'd say it, but I miss BW.

Another era gone.

Kinda like the end of Good Fellas, I used to be someone, now I'm just a schmuck. lol

<S> Oldman, long time friend

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My partial list of artist I've worked with during 38 years in the biz.

* = defines multiple events
FOH = Front of House (audience)
ME = Monitor Engineer (stage)
HE = Head/House Electrician
SO = System Operator

38 Special * (ME/SO)
5th Dimension (ME)
Air Supply * (ME)
Alabama * (HE, SO)
Alice Cooper * (HE)
America (ME)
Aretha Franklin ** (ME)
Aaron Neville * (ME)
Arron Tippin (ME)
Ashford & Simpson (ME)
Alan Jackson (HE)
Aloe Blacc (ME)
Avalon Productions (Dick Clark) (ME)
Bad Finger * (ME)
BB King ** (ME)
Beck (ME)
Biden President *
Bill Cosby * (FOH)
Billy Dean * (ME)
Billy Ray Cyrus (ME)
BJ Thomas * (ME)
Black Oak Arkansas (ME)
Blake Shelton (ME)
Blood, Sweat & Tears * (ME)
Bobby "Blue" Bland ** (ME)
Bobby Venton * (ME)
Boyz 2 Men * (ME)
Buchinghams ** (ME)
Brenda Lee (ME)
Buddy Guy * (ME)
Buffalo Springfield. (ME)
Carnival China Style 2010 (FOH)
Carol King * (ME)
Carol Lawrence & Robert Gullett Jr. (ME)
Charlie Daniels * (ME)
Cheap Trick * (ME)
Chi-Lites ** (ME)
Christina Aguilera (HE)
Crystal Gayle (ME)
Crystals (ME)
Chubby Checker * (ME)
Climax Blues Band (ME)
Clint Black (HE)
Clinton President *
Commodores (ME)
Collin Raye * (ME)
David Allan Coe (ME)
Dave Mason (ME)
David Coperfield (Prop Setup\Testing)
David Crosby & Graham Nash (ME)
David Cassidy (ME)
David Gilmour
David Lee Murphy (HE)
Debbie Reynolds (ME)
Def Comedy Jam (FOH)
Def Leopard (IATSE)
Dells ** (ME)
Diahann Carrol (ME)
Dion * (ME)
Drifters ** (ME)
Dr. John (SO)
Destiny's Child (ME
Doobie Brothers (ME)
Dokken (SO)
Earth Wind & Fire (SO)
Eddie Money * (ME SO)
Eagles
Electric Light Orcastra * (ME)
En Vogue (ME)
Eric Burdon & the Animals (ME)
Everly Borthers (ME)
Foghat * (ME)
Foriegner * (ME)
Four Tops * (ME)
Frank Sinatra Jr. (ME)
Franky Valley * (ME)
Gary Lewis * (ME)
Gary Pucket * (ME)
Gary Moore (ME)
George Benson (ME)
George Bush Sr (President) (ME, SO)
George Clinton & P-Funk * (ME, SO)
George Jones (SO)
Gerald Ford (Former President USA)
George Thorogood * (ME)
Girl School (ME)
Glen Cambell (ME)
Gordon Lightfoot (HE, SO)
Grand Funk Railroad (ME)
Grass Roots * (ME)
Grover Washington (ME)
Guess Who * (ME)
Hal Holbrook (ME)
Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes (ME)
Herbie Hancoch (FOH)
Humble Pie * (ME)
Huey Lewis & The News * (HE, SO)
Isley Brothers * (ME)
Jackyl * (HE)
James Brown * (ME)
Jason Isbell (FOH)
Jamie Fox (FOH)
Jeff Carson (ME)
Jefferson Starship (ME)
Jerry Springer (ME)
Jerry Reed (ME)
Jo Dee Messina * (ME, HE, SO)
Joe Bonamassa (ME)
Joe Diffy* (ME)
Joe Perry Project \ from Areosmith (ME)
Journey (IATSE)
John Landecker (ME)
Johnny Lang (ME) *
John Mayall (ME)
John Michael Montgomery (ME)
Johnny Paycheck (ME)
Jonathan Brandmier (FOH)
Kansas * (ME, SO)
KC & The Sunshine Band * (ME)
Keith Urban * (SO)
Kenny Chesney (ME)
Kenny Logins * (HE, SO)
Kenny Wayne Shepherd (ME)
Kentucky Headhunters * (ME)
Kid Rock (w/Sheryl Crow)
KoKo Taylor * (ME)
Kevin Bacon (ME)
Leann Rimes * (ME, SO)
Lee Roy Parnell (ME)
Little Feet * (ME)
Lonestar (SO)
Louise Mandrell (ME)
Lover Boy (ME)
Lynard Skynard * (HE)
Magic Dick * (J Geils Band) (ME)
Man Cow (ME)
Manhattans * (ME)
Marie Osmond (ME)
Marshal Tucker Band ** (ME)
Martha Reeves (ME)
Martina Mcbride (HE, SO)
Marty Stewart (HE/SO)
Mary J. Blige * (ME)
Mary Wilson * (ME)
Mavis Staples (ME)
Maze w/Frankie Beverly (ME)
Megadeath (ME)
Melissa Manchester (ME)
Mel Torme * (ME)
Meatloaf (SO)
Michael Bolton (SO)
Micheal Schanker (SO)
Micky Gilly * (ME)
Mitsy Gainier * (ME)
Molly Hatchet * (ME)
Moody Blues * (HE, SO)
Motley Crue (HE)
NW Indiana Sympony Orcastra ** (FOH, ME)
Neal McCoy * (ME)
Neil Sedaka (ME)
Nelson Brothers (ME)
Neville Brothers * (ME)
Night Ranger (ME)
Obama President *
Ohio Players * (ME)
Ojays * (ME)
Pam Tillis (ME)
Patti Auston (ME)
Patty Loveless * (ME)
Paul Revere and the Raiders * (ME)
Pebo Bryson * (ME, SO)
Percy Sledge (ME)
Peter Noone (Hermans Hermits) * (ME)
Peter, Paul, & Mary * (SO)
Phylis Hienman (ME)
Queen (SO)
Queensryche (ME, SO)
Radio London * (FOH)
Rammstein (ME)
Randy Travis (ME/SO)
Rare Earth * (ME)
Raspberries (ME)
Rascal Flatts * (ME)
Ray Charles * (ME, FOH)
Ray Stevens (ME)
Red Buttons (ME)
Red Skelton (ME)
REO Speedwagon * (ME/SO HE)
Richard Marx * (ME)
Rick Derringer (ME, SO)
Rick Sprinfield * (ME)
Rightous Brothers * (ME)
Ringo Star's All Star Band (HE, SO)
Roberta Flack (ME, SO)
Robin Trower (ME)
Roger Waters (Hand/Sound)
Roger Williams (ME)
Ronnie Milsap (ME/SO)
Ronnie Spector * (ME)
Rooster * (FOH)
Roy Clark * (ME)
Sammy Kershaw (ME)
Santana (SO)
Sha na na * (ME)
Sheena Easton (ME)
Smothers Bothers (ME)
Soupy Sales (ME)
Spensor Davis (SO)
Spinners (ME)
Starship * (ME)
Statler Bros (SO)
Steppenwolf * (ME/SO)
Steve Earle (ME)
Steve Allen (ME)
Steve Marriot * (ME)
Steve Walsh (ME)
Stevie Nicks
Styx * (HE)
Stylistics * (ME)
Supremes (ME)
Survivor * (ME)
Taylor Dayne (SO)
Taylor Swift
Temptations ** (ME)
Tesla (ME)
Terry Clark * (ME)
Tommy James * (ME)
Tommy Castro * (ME)
Tony Bennet (HE)
Tonya Tucker * (ME)
Tower of Power (ME)
Tracy Byrd (ME)
Travis Tritt * (ME, HE, SO)
Turtles ** (ME)
Ty England (ME)
Victor Borge (ME)
Wallflowers (ME)
Wayne Newton (ME)
War (ME)
Waylon Jennings (ME)
Weird Al Yankovik
Whispers ** (ME)
Wishbone Ash (ME)
Willie Nelson * (ME/SO)
Wynonna Judd (ME)
Yolanda Adams * (ME)

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[icepac]

Steve Terreberry tries to make a song with A.I.

   

Internet musicians cover the song.     

Singer see's potential and collaborates.

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[Animl-AW]

I knew she’s have to add more toms and cymbals

[icepac]

I’m pretty sure Rush may have been considering yoyoka but she’s too young for touring. 

[Animl-AW]

lol I doubt that. I didn’t listen, she could be the greatest, but she’s not even in the ballpark of fitting the band. That would change the entire face of the band in a very wrong direction. Playing notes and beats is one thing, living them is another world.

Plus as you said, on the road would be several problems.
One would be her parents would also need to travel. Not only does that raise expenses, but no one would be themselves with parents hanging around. It’s not for the Brady Bunch. Ut would turn sn R rated show into a G rated show. Buzz-kill.

Most their fans would pull back and could affect ticket sales.

Neil Peart was the most famous of the band. It would be career suicide to take that route as a replacement.

The current is good, but even that is a lil weird.

Hard to take that serious

[icepac]

She’s certainly a little too young for touring but she may have been considered.   

Senri Kawaguchi is claimed by Guthrie Govan for live shows  when he’s in country.

[youtube] https://youtu.be/iz1R0bmcaew[youtube]

[Animl-AW]

 

She’s certainly a little too young for touring but she may have been considered.   

Senri Kawaguchi is claimed by Guthrie Govan for live shows  when he’s in country.

[youtube] https://youtu.be/iz1R0bmcaew[youtube]

Possibly.
IMO, too much focus would be on “look at a child do what Peart did”. Instead of the band itself.
They would have other reasons too.

Considered? It’s amusing, but I would think that was very short lived.

Certainly has talent.

I had the opportunity to work with Leann Rimes on her first tour at 14 or 15 yrs old. It was very cute as a speckled puppy, but I got her again at 21 yrs old. The whole touring thing ate her up and she turned into sn intolerable squeak. She was always nice to me and confided in me, but she ended up repulsed by it all. That was her last tour. Was really disheartening to watch the change psychologically. Glad I never saw that again.

I think all of us seeing that made promoters step back and realize what they did for greed of money. You probably won’t see that much again. They and her parents destroyed her. You can only isolate them from it so much. She was forced to perform when she really didn’t want to. She walked away feeling so used. I listened to her complain about it, but silently very upset to watch it. I was sickened. Felt horrible for her. Trying to launch her upbeat went nowhere.

Its a cool dream to tour, but when the true reality hits of what it is can change minds, there’s a natural weeding process. But ya just signed a tour contract and stuck where you may not want to be.

I think we agree too young. I don’t think consideration lasted very long, maybe a cpl minutes. But not serious. Right now she’s a novel prodigy. She’s not a R&R image. Maybe 5 yrs down the road she may find her place.

They may help her, but not take her.

I’m not sure the current will survive her first tour. We’ll see.

I learned early, no tours, one offs only. I only took the Aretha Franklin comeback tour because she put a lot of effort and money to get me to do it. I may have done many shows for others, but not on s bus as a tour agreement. Fly-ins at most. Maybe why I lasted 45 yrs.

[Animl-AW]

[-gg-]

That barenaked Ladies one is really good. I've not heard that before. I like it. Great guitar sound on that electric guitar. Sounds like a real Vox kind of sound similar to nowhere Man by the Beatles. I love that crunchy, saturated high end.

[Animl-AW]

Ya, that frying bacon sound on the gtr fits the song well.

[icepac]

[CptTrips]

This is a good one...