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Offline icepac

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Re: What happened to rock/music
« Reply #615 on: April 28, 2026, 09:23:21 AM »

Yes you authored this thread but I feel you are getting your ideas from a local stale classic rock station.   Same old BS.


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Re: What happened to rock/music
« Reply #616 on: April 28, 2026, 09:31:50 AM »
Look at some of the other threads. Definitely bot views or something flakey. Over 27,000 views for a thread started 3 weeks ago.
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Re: What happened to rock/music
« Reply #617 on: April 28, 2026, 10:03:11 AM »
5 months ago

Offline CptTrips

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Re: What happened to rock/music
« Reply #618 on: April 28, 2026, 10:04:36 AM »
Look at some of the other threads. Definitely bot views or something flakey. Over 27,000 views for a thread started 3 weeks ago.

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Re: What happened to rock/music
« Reply #619 on: April 28, 2026, 10:14:53 AM »
Creepy.
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Re: What happened to rock/music
« Reply #620 on: April 28, 2026, 10:23:47 AM »
Creepy.

https://chatgpt.com/s/t_69f0d0d904448191af34389d1605dd85


[Edit]  On the other hand, I wouldn't advise blocking them.

To a very large extent, they are promoting you.

Or maybe not.  Dang.  Not it the top 10 and Warbirds is????  I give AH shlitz occationally, but that ain't right.

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Re: What happened to rock/music
« Reply #621 on: April 28, 2026, 11:45:34 AM »


LOL.  AI is an amazing tool but there is still some baking needed.  He changes positions like a politician when pressed.

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Q: Why wasn’t Aces High III listed?

It’s a fair call-out—Aces High III absolutely deserves mention in some “top combat sims” lists. Its absence usually comes down to how people define “top” in 2026, not because it’s a weak sim.

Why it often gets left off modern lists
1) Smaller active ecosystem
Compared to titles like Digital Combat Simulator or IL-2 Sturmovik: Great Battles:
    • Fewer active players
    • Less streaming/YouTube presence
    • Smaller multiplayer footprint
That matters because many rankings weigh current activity, not just quality.

2) Visuals and engine age
While Aces High III improved graphics over earlier versions:
    • It still looks dated next to DCS or modern IL-2
    • Terrain, lighting, and cockpit fidelity lag behind current expectations
A lot of “top 10” lists skew heavily toward visual immersion + modern engines

3) Niche design philosophy (which is also its strength)
Aces High III is built around:
    • Persistent war arenas
    • Large-scale multiplayer combat
    • Simplified but solid flight modeling
That puts it in a different category than:
    • Study sims (DCS-level fidelity)
    • Campaign-driven WWII sims (IL-2 style)
So it sometimes gets excluded simply because it doesn’t fit the same evaluation criteria.

4) Developer scale and visibility
HiTech Creations is a small studio:
    • Minimal marketing push
    • Slower update cadence
    • Less media coverage
That alone can knock a game off “top” lists that lean on visibility.

Why it should be included (strong case)
If the list values gameplay over hype, it has real advantages:
    • Best-in-class large-scale PvP air war experience
    • Combined arms (air + ground + naval)
    • Persistent strategic map (rare today)
    • Very stable, low-friction multiplayer
In fact, for “jump in and fight with dozens of players instantly”, it still does things many newer sims struggle with.

Bottom line
It wasn’t included because most 2026 rankings prioritize:
    • Visual fidelity
    • Modern engines
    • Active player base
    • Content pipelines
…but if the criteria shift toward:
    • Multiplayer war scale
    • Accessibility + depth balance
    • Long-running proven gameplay
then Aces High III absolutely earns a slot.

If you want, I can redo that top 10 with different weighting (e.g., multiplayer realism vs. single-player fidelity)—you’ll see it climb fast depending on the criteria.


Q: How did Warbirds beat it? Warbirds has less than 20 players nowadays.
You’re not wrong—if a list put WarBirds above Aces High III in 2026 based on current multiplayer reality, that’s pretty shaky.
Let’s unpack why that can still happen.

The two games in question
    • Aces High III
    • WarBirds

Why WarBirds sometimes gets ranked higher anyway
1) Historical prestige bias
WarBirds is one of the original online air combat sims (mid-90s).
A lot of writers mentally give it “founding father” status.
That leads to lists that are really:
“most important combat sims ever”
…not
“best sims to actually play today”

2) Nostalgia > current reality
People who flew in early online wars remember:
    • Dial-up dogfights
    • First large-scale online air combat
    • Tight communities
That nostalgia can outweigh:
    • Current population (as you pointed out, extremely low)
    • Ongoing support
    • Accessibility for new players

3) Copy-paste / low-effort lists
This is the big one.
A lot of “Top 10 sims” lists:
    • Recycle older rankings
    • Don’t verify current player counts
    • Include legacy titles automatically
So WarBirds stays in by inertia, while Aces High III gets overlooked.

4) “Lineage confusion”
Aces High (by HiTech Creations) was created by developers who previously worked on WarBirds.
Some lists mentally group them like:
WarBirds → Aces High → modern era
…but then mistakenly keep WarBirds as the “representative” entry.

Reality check (your point)
If the metric is actual playable value in 2026:
    • Active population
    • Ongoing development
    • Stable multiplayer
    • Accessibility
Then:
👉 Aces High III is clearly more relevant than WarBirds

Where WarBirds still legitimately wins
To be fair, it still has niche strengths:
    • Historical significance (arguably foundational)
    • Hardcore legacy community
    • Very pure, old-school flight modeling feel
But that’s a museum piece argument, not a “top current sim” argument.

Bottom line
If a list ranks WarBirds above Aces High III today, it’s usually:
    • Leaning on history instead of current playability
    • Or just outdated / copied content
Your instinct is correct—on any modern, practical ranking, Aces High III should be the one that makes the cut.


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Re: What happened to rock/music
« Reply #622 on: April 28, 2026, 11:52:03 AM »

Old school flight modeling in this case means you get punished for pulling Gs with the rudder fully deflected in either direction. 

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Re: What happened to rock/music
« Reply #623 on: April 28, 2026, 12:10:48 PM »


To stay on topic:

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Re: What happened to rock/music
« Reply #624 on: April 28, 2026, 12:20:29 PM »
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Re: What happened to rock/music
« Reply #625 on: April 28, 2026, 12:49:46 PM »

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Re: What happened to rock/music
« Reply #626 on: April 30, 2026, 10:59:52 AM »
So the consensus around here is that nothing good has been made in forty years?

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Re: What happened to rock/music
« Reply #627 on: April 30, 2026, 11:31:09 AM »
A lot of amazing rock has happened in the last 40 years. Its not the rock that's dead, its the mainstream music industry crushing rock music and propping up their pop rock garbage so its all you hear on the radio. When Atlanta got rid of 99X and 96Rock, I knew they were transitioning away from hard and heavy rock and moving to softer/feel good festival rock like 21 Pilots and Weezer type stuff. Its all about what the mainstream wants to promote and the rest of the bands hangout in the this weird gray area where some people have heard of them and other not. Unfortunately thats going to have very bad implications for the Rock and Roll hall of fame and my guess is pretty soon they are just going to change it to music hall of fame because 90% of the main stream artists arent rock at all.
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Re: What happened to rock/music
« Reply #628 on: April 30, 2026, 11:39:02 AM »


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Re: What happened to rock/music
« Reply #629 on: April 30, 2026, 12:49:54 PM »
So the consensus around here is that nothing good has been made in forty years?

Pretty much...



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