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Offline Hangtime

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« on: January 19, 2002, 11:03:29 PM »
seems like it's turned into a frekin monkey pack circle jerk as of late.

example.. put up a mission, 121 bish on. got 15 in the mission, 8 typhies, 5 mossies and a pair of goons. Target was a field that was not under a 5 hour seige.. but the route to the target was close to that field..

mission went well.. aside from 5 of typhies augering into the acks they were supposed to kill on their first pass and the goons that decided to go wandering off to that other field under seige instead of flying the flight plan. the goon drivers never aknowledged hails..

the mossies did well. slapped down the city in less than 2 minutes, but sadly; they were overwhelmed by flacks upping from the VH those auggered typhies were supposed to get..

result.. a city dead, all acks down but VH up.. still; the goons would have nailed it... but they went someplace else, and failed there too.

Everytime i checked the map, there was about 90 bish in one area, all gang monkeying a field that shoulda been down hours before,.. jeezus; it's like kiddie paradise in the MA.. this is not the esception anymore in the MA.. it's the rule. Every night. Every weekend. Every time I log on.

is there a group in here, a country; a squad that understands the mission planner, knows how to use it, does assigned tasks, obtains objectives? or is this whole damn sim now a big farging circle jerk monkey butt grabbing gangbang?

i used ta like this sim; enjoyed it immensely.. i'm sittin here askin myself, what did I USED to like about AH, and what don't i like about it now. Whelp, I used to like the combined squad raids we used to do most everynight in the ma.. one outfit handling buffing and goons, another on jabo; a third on CAP, all of 'em communicating, coordinating, advancing.. I like bein able to up with a batch of bish, and know I'd get a six call, or support on a task.. to give it and recieve it...

But not anymore. Now it's just a buncha lil kids playing at FA. They do the strat thing like old people screw... slow, sloppy, no sense of conviction or direction..

To top it off, now that the place is filled with 'customers' ( i use that in the most negative sense) theres significant server probs, the alt arena's such as the CT or DA are messed up with the the plane selection or just plain unpopulated, the TA is filled with 8 year olds checkin out all the kewl cusswords.. andf the MA is packed to extremis with stuttering servers and a slide show FPS.

*sigh*

I'm thinkin about yankin the plugs.. almost 3 years here, I've had a great ride, enjoyed flying this sim, enjoyed the fights, the scenarios, the MA..  but nowadays, all I'm catchin is aggravation. A good 1v1 is impossible to find in the MA, ain't been that kinda place for a LOOOOONG time now, and I guess thats a good thing. But when I did wanna fly a good 1v1 against a sharp stick, we went to the DA and found after 20 minutes of trying we couldn't even up our planes from a sea-level field. Went to the TA finally; and had ta fly 'ezmode' planes with forever fuel and bogus ammo loads while listening to the kiddie porn show... and .squelch wouldn't even work.

Hopped into the CT.. found 11 ruskies monkey banging 3 LW. The LW was needless to say in need of help, a port about ta fall... upped from the VH inna flack track only to be spit into 4 feet of water inna PT boat berth. So much fer the CT.

*sigh*

Hey look.. thanks fer listenin to my gripes, putting up with my rants... but i think it's time I wandered off for awile, I'm sure I can find something a lil more entertaining to do with my time than this monkey butt furball circle jerk.....  As you can see, I'm fresh outta consructive input for AH at present, love the place; but can't stand what it's becomming.

All, my most excellent friends and adversarys... I'll keep my account for now, I frankly feel I have no gripe with payin 15 bucks a month to keep a toe in now and then, fly a snapshot or a scenario, and who knows; maybe things will improve again.

Wish ya all the besta luck... and check six. Frequently.  ;)
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2002, 11:05:15 PM »
Sounds like poor Leadership Hang :D

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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2002, 11:07:30 PM »
MA is the kiddie pool.  Don't waste your time there.  If you are looking for anything beyond daisy chain luffberry furballs you are not going to find it there.
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2002, 11:08:31 PM »
Did your mission have waypoints?

Man, I hate it when they don't put in waypoints.

It saves me the trouble of questions such as, "Where are we launching from and where are we going?"
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2002, 11:19:17 PM »
Was there ever a time when mindless arcade furballing wasn't the norm?

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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2002, 11:29:28 PM »
I feel your pain Hang.  Seems the days of big, organized missions in the MA are long lost.  I can't even remember when I quit using it.... probably around the time TWC disbanded.

Maybe the biggest problem with the mission planner is the lack of knowledge about it these days.  All us old timers were here when it was introduced and couldna wait to play with it.  Several folks became renowned for thier missions and they were always packed.  You, Zigrat, Ripsnort, and the old TWC missions come to mind here (and the TWC ones were half zig half me anyway).  Maybe dragging up those old posts in the training board to educate the young'uns would help... then again.. maybe not, if they just want to furball.

Gotta disagree on the 1v1 in the MA though.  I've found several good 1v1's in the past few days.  Always on the fringe of a furball, and either me or the bandit pulling every trick we know before running for the friendlies in the furball because we lost the advantage.


Sandman,
READ the mission you are thinking about joining.  Each flight shown in the box tells you the field and time of departure for that flight.  There are also boxes underneath the list that let you scroll through the loadouts for the selected flight.
Also when you join a mission in the planner it doesn't matter what field you're at, you will automatically be put in the aircraft of the flight you've chosen and placed on the correct runway at the correct field at departure time.

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2002, 11:38:55 PM »
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Sandman,
READ the mission you are thinking about joining.  Each flight shown in the box tells you the field and time of departure for that flight.  There are also boxes underneath the list that let you scroll through the loadouts for the selected flight.
Also when you join a mission in the planner it doesn't matter what field you're at, you will automatically be put in the aircraft of the flight you've chosen and placed on the correct runway at the correct field at departure time.


Brainfarted there... the launch field is easy to find. Quite often, the target field info is left out. Granted, sometimes it might be in the title.
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2002, 11:43:13 PM »
Aye, sometimes ya gotta guess at the target field.  I remember trips where TWC started a mission going after 1 field.  We'd capture the target, land there, rearm, and take off for the next target w/o building a new mission in the planner.

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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2002, 11:43:32 PM »
rgr than Sandman. waypoints. alts. typed intsructions. assigned flight leads. targets. Whole ball of wax. Adequite fuel, good ords.

look.. i'm more than aware that in this new enviornment.. the one where there the ma population is 70% or better newbies.. that comms will be a prob.. but it's more than that.

i've launched a few missions over the years.. had some good runs, some bad ones. and it wasn't 'this' mission that annoyed me.. in fact i wasn't so musch annoyed as I was dissapointed. Again. I just used the above mission as an example.

The guys that did the job were let down by the ones that didn't.. I can't fly their planes, sit in their cockpits. squeeze their triggers. I CAN assign targets, establish routes, select A/C and loadouts... but when half the mission abandons the other half they don't remember THEM.. but they do  remember me.. "yet another failed mission from the hangtard guy; and hey, wtf, I can do better myself".

I'd rather not annoy myself with this kiddie MA show anymore... and I sure don't wanna let guys down that sign on to do a mission,  AND ALL THAT IMPLIES only to be dissapointed routinely. Nobody wants to do one way trips into a meat grinder. I plan missions so the participants can and should succeed.. not get 7 quality sticks killed by 6 of their own 'wingmen' with no gain, no net positive result because those 6 twits could not accomplish a simple rudemtary assigned task. :(

If the experience was a fluke, hey; that's the MA.. missions go sour. But this was no 'fluke'.. no fog of war issue. It's the new MA.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2002, 11:54:23 PM »
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Aye, sometimes ya gotta guess at the target field.  I remember trips where TWC started a mission going after 1 field.  We'd capture the target, land there, rearm, and take off for the next target w/o building a new mission in the planner.


Yep... been there. Done that. :)

BTW... Saw your sig... I'm a twin. It's a wonderful thing. :)
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2002, 01:15:50 AM »
Geez Hang...you whining?  :D  Better hope Creamo doesnt see this post.  :)

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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2002, 01:19:27 AM »
Hang in there Hang, your prolly right, sounds like you need a break, but dont give up the ship yet.  I too have been frustrated with the MA, and cant fly in the CT cause of the connect problems right now.  It was frustrating to see just the other day some 50-60 knights fighting rooks over a44 in mindanao terrain, while bishops clobbered the other 4 of us defending the rest of our fields against 30-40 bishops, whose attacks seemed pretty well planned out.  They simply rolled us over.  Alot of the newer folks may not yet understand the strategic value of the game as yet, and most of the vets are flying in the CT nowadays.  It might take awhile, but I think these guys will realize the better part of the strat system available in the future.  We need guys like you, to remind us every once in awhile.

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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2002, 01:37:25 AM »
Take your cat in the back yard and shoot at it with a bb gun some.  You'd be suprised how hard of a target they can become after you fire the first shot!

After that, make time to log into the arena after 11pm.  I'll be there, Cent, maybe Creamo after a while, and sometimes even Fatty and Mason are up past their bedtimes.  The arena isn't so packed then, and Fariz is usually on...that Knuckles guy too.  Could get some good missions going, but probably not multi squad types.

Maybe if those pansy AssAssIns moved over to Bishland and the SBMs came back home we could lay wasted to the rest of the sissies flying around!  ;)


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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2002, 01:50:04 AM »
Hangtime....I'm convinced that in AH, it's just about impossible to coordinate moves without use of RogerWilco.  The guys who didn't do their job were new or inexperienced, and may not have understood what to do.

I agree, the MA is very different now, and imo much more difficult to play.  Let's face it mate, it just ain't easy to get an entire group of die-hard, battle hardened, alpha males to do what you want 'em to...LOL....over a computer anyway, hehe.  

I think guys like you, Zigrat, Ripsnort, and many others, have moved to a new plateau, and for all practical purposes, have mastered this game...particularly when it comes to the mission planning aspect.  I have great respect for anyone who can plan a mission on the planner.

Well anyway, I pretty much agree with you Hangtime, even though I'm a Rook.  I've been playing for about a year or so, and I've seen the change.  But I will say one thing, this game is good for stress relief.  NIHI ILEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM!!!  {sp}  Don't let the bastards get you down.:)

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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2002, 02:27:00 AM »
Hangtime,
Your problem is that your still Bish!
Switch to Knight and all your problems will go away.
Knights never furball or lose focus.  Every single Knight participates in missions and is 100% competent.  We are also excellent comunicaters.  :rolleyes:

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