Author Topic: Rush has finally gone too far (Read 2398 times)

Tumor · « **on:** January 26, 2002, 11:19:27 AM »

Ya, I know many of you figure Rush going to far was being born lol, but I've always enjoyed listening to Rush Limbaugh and agree with allot of what he has to say and many of the points he makes. It helps being an avid leaner-to-the-right.

HOWEVER

He actually went so far the other day to ask a general question...(paraphrased).... "Why shouldn't people who have more money deserve better medical care than people who don't"

....Ok, liberals and democrats, fire away. I'm on your side here. I didn't hear the entire broadcast so maybe I didn't get the gist of his question but, the very thought that rich pukes should "deserve" better medical care than poor folks is despicable. He also ACTUALLY SAID poor folks usually cause thier own medical problems....GEEZUZZZ!! So I guess rich guy who smokes like a chimney and gets lung cancer should also be denied medical care...riiiiiiiiight.

What??...all rich people have spent thier whole lives busting their butts to get wealthy? So..what about lottery winners?? lol. I can't believe this garbage.

Maniac · « **Reply #1 on:** January 26, 2002, 11:26:26 AM »

Is this guy for real????

He should get an baseball bat to his forehead...

Tac · « **Reply #2 on:** January 26, 2002, 11:46:50 AM »

No maniac, you may cause him more brain damage.

Gadfly · « **Reply #3 on:** January 26, 2002, 12:01:15 PM »

Rush is a moron, but he is a careful moron. If you were to check the stats for cause of death among socio-economic classes, I think you will find the data he bases that statement upon.

As for the rich deserving better medical treatment, I doubt he said exactly that, but I know what his point was. Turn it around: If I can pay for something better than what is available for free, shouldn't I be able to do so? Or should the best available be the limited to what anyone can get for free?

Maniac · « **Reply #4 on:** January 26, 2002, 12:13:13 PM »

IMHO, everyone should be able to get the absolutly best medical care there is, it shouldnt matter how much $$ you have.

Gunthr · « **Reply #5 on:** January 26, 2002, 12:16:17 PM »

Would you want FREE medical care to cover tummy tucks, nose jobs and breast augmentation?

On the other hand, would you deny these procedures to people willing to pay for them?

What Limbaugh said, taken out of context sounds extreme, but there might have been a valid point in there somewhere...

capt. apathy · « **Reply #6 on:** January 26, 2002, 12:30:36 PM »

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Would you want FREE medical care to cover tummy tucks, nose jobs and breast augmentation?

theres no reason why those procedures should be covered in basic (gov't provided) health care, but no one shouldn't have to decide wether son #1 gets medical atention or rent gets paid so the whole family has somewhere to live, and it happens every day.

even worse is the people who get labled as deadbeats because if the stay on welfare there kids get free medical but if they go to work they lose the medical coverage while most lower paying (entry level) jobs don't provide healthcare.

i've been lucky enough to have insurance for my kids, but i've met many people on public asistance who really are being kept there because the have a child with cronic health problems and if they worked they would lose the medical benifits

Maniac · « **Reply #7 on:** January 26, 2002, 12:51:19 PM »

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Would you want FREE medical care to cover tummy tucks, nose jobs and breast augmentation?

I dont consider the above mentioned to be "medical care".

Gunthr · « **Reply #8 on:** January 26, 2002, 02:36:15 PM »

I don't know what Limbaugh was talking about... or what he actually said, but...

I'm against socialized medicine. I believe there should be a very, very basic safety net for people genuinely unable to provide for themselves.

This basic safety net probably would not cover heart transplants, for example.

However, a working person with good insurance might be able to afford it.

Giving away the best medical care money can buy to every non-productive jobless alchoholic living under the overpass, every criminal and crack addict for example, would collapse under its own weight.

easymo · « **Reply #9 on:** January 26, 2002, 02:41:01 PM »

I have to go with the liberals on this one. The American medical profession is the highest paid profession on the planet. There is something fundamentally wrong with that. The trouble can be found with the insurance industry.

I don't care if rich folks buy a limo. Or if they pass out loner cars to the poor. But there should be an affordable Chevy around for the Middle class. And there is NOT.

Sandman · « **Reply #10 on:** January 26, 2002, 02:55:11 PM »

Just a perception...

My wife grew up poor... welfare and all of that. I've noticed that some of her family, the one's that haven't worked their way out of government subsistance, thoroughly abuse the medical system and medicare.

Even with medical insurance, I typically evaluate my children's conditions before electing professional help. The biggest reason is money. The second reason is time. I assume that every parent does the same, for the same reasons.

There's no triage by most welfare recipients I know. Got the sniffles? Run to the doc. Got a stomach ache? Run to the doc. Head hurt? Run to the doc.

Medicine in this country IS socialized. Who do you think pays for these excesses?

Gunthr · « **Reply #11 on:** January 26, 2002, 03:49:23 PM »

Easymo,

"The trouble can be found with the insurance industry."

I'll go ya one further:

The real trouble can be traced to LAWYERS

easymo · « **Reply #12 on:** January 26, 2002, 04:04:09 PM »

You have a point.

mrfish · « **Reply #13 on:** January 26, 2002, 04:16:17 PM »

i used to listen to rush on my way home from the night shift for yeeeeears.

he would have a good point sometimes but he often engaged in the same logical fallacies he protested against.

i hated hearing so many people call in bamboozled by him and if it weren't for him they'd be bamboozled by someone else.

it sucks that the premier voice for the silent majority is so wrapped up in tricks and taking things out of context and veiled attacks.

they need a better spokesperson because a lot of the issues need to be out there in a responsible way and the regular hypno-core media will never shed that bias.

easymo · « **Reply #14 on:** January 26, 2002, 04:25:42 PM »

O'rielly no spin zone. at fox news channel.His constant self promotion does get tiresome at times. But he does take a common sense approach to things. In spite of having the number one news show on cable, The bush people avoid going on his show, like the plague. The Clintons despise him, as do most liberals. He must be doing something right.