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Offline eskimo2

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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2002, 06:57:34 PM »
LOL Fariz!

FTJR,
One of the best "Rewards" of flying bomber missions is that there's a good chance that you'll piss off Lazshole.  Keep this in mind the next time you launch a buff and it will make the entire mission a much happier experience.

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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2002, 07:45:27 PM »
fluffing is so ridiculously easy that it need to be discouraged not rewarded.

typical fluff sortie:

1. up from a capped field screaming over channel 2 "I need a gunner" and "where's my escort"

2. fluffer  spots 2 fields where theres a good fight going on he climbs just above the frey kills the fighter hangers, gets shot down, whines about no cap but on channel 2, on channel 1 he gloats "ha ha gotch yo fiter hangers"

3. fluffer ups 10 fields deep in his own territory using auto takeoff, aims at target, switches to auto climb, goes take a 2 hour nap, washes cloths, fixes supper, builds a new garage, comes bac auto levels, hits a couple of buttons, turns round and auto levels home, grabs a shower, lands.
then gets on channel 1 "strat is screwed up I bombed their hq and by the time I get home its back up..wha wha wha"

How much easier you fluffers  want it?

You keep saying this is a strat game. The game is what the players make it. Most like dogfighting as proven by their actions. Go check the main out right now and see what most folks are doing. They aint fluffin if you "enjoy" it well good for you. But making the game revolve arounf no fun  fluffin and fluff hunting will be the quickest way to thin out the arena.

Be happy with what little ya got.

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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2002, 08:18:58 PM »
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I don't really think that a fluff milkrunning a few hangers in order to spoil the fight for the real players should be rewarded.


I don't know how many times I've been involved in some serious dogfights when looking up one single Lanc comes by and puts an end to by droppin on FH's no other reason but stop fighters from launching.  I can see doing this happening to achieve a goal such CAPTURING the fediddlein base but NO the dang buff just drops on the hangars and goes home there by ending alot of fun.

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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2002, 01:20:54 AM »
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Originally posted by Tac
True akak, but that formation will have half or more of its bombs miss target.  If you aim for the hangars.. in, say, a medium field, you would drop the eggs on where you THINK your bombs and the other buffs bombs will have the highest chance of hitting. Its in that moment that the human bombardier can either put them on target or completely mess up the bomb run by bombing the sheep grazing just outside the field.

It would be logical to assume that with buff formations, the damage each structure takes will be increased dramatically. maybe 2 or 3k to kill a hangar? If 1 pilot with 1 buff formation can have that much lead, think what 6 pilots with buff formations can do.. too unbalancing.


hewhewhew tac

i fly in a with a goup of guys that would make your theory a horrible nightmare...

new buff model (all rumor,, but roll with it)...roughly 30 "real" buffs flying with 4 other "AI" buffs each...

oh crap..you do the math.....lazs would fliiiiiiiiiiiip.

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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2002, 08:38:20 AM »
instead of whining or squeaking about buffs.....find the solution you morons.....you say 1 buff does alot of damage......why are all the fighters furballing...shouldn't there be a defensive cap on your base...did ya think of that....no of course not...your a furballer....is it really so hard to send 1 or 2 guys up there for cap.....you make it sound like buffs can't be killed...takes a buff 1 hr to get to 20k....takes a 109.... 2 minutes.....did ya ask for resupply goon to come your way when you saw buff....no of course not.... your a furballer....stick to furballing.....your idea's suck...think next time!


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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2002, 09:17:13 AM »
I agree with the buff landing incentive idea.  I fly both fighters and buffs and would wholeheartedly welcome some sort of points on landing only.

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« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2002, 09:28:20 AM »
In good old days when one Lanc over your HQ could really ruin your day I used to patrol over it with a P-38/P-47/P-51 @ 30k with tanks full of fuel waiting HQ raiders.
Usually boring 40-50min flight ended to hectic 5-10min fight while trying to avoid those nasty .50cals :)

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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2002, 09:35:38 AM »
A praise to Buff pilots, in the Bob Stevens way..


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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2002, 09:49:56 AM »
well... staga is the guy the fluffers would like to imagine the rest of the fighter sim guys are...   We're not of course but it would fit their view of the world.

In the real flight sim world, the fighters want to fight airplanes.  not mostly ai ,mouse controled, ack wagons.   Why would anyone even bother?   Well... besides the aforementioned aberation... the no talent fluffers can ruin yur day. So...

you can either ignore them (by far the most fun solution) or, you can waste your time, be a martyr and ruin your online time bywating the time needed to fight an unfair and unfun opponent while everyone else is down there having a good time.  When you do reach em the worst that you can do is to em is kill em before they drop in which case they will be back in 15 minutes.

slo, fariz, eskimo, and revin are of course idiots.   Incapable of content... Their posts prove it.  Idiots are ok... nothing wrong with that but they should keep quiet.  lecar at least has a point.  he's wrong of course but he does mix some content in with the personal attacks.
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2002, 09:54:48 AM »
Its very disapointing to read some of these posts.
The best part of the game for me is when your team is on a roll captureing fields one after the other, using bombers and fighters alike.
As for getting rewards for bombing, well you can only use them for arado anyway, so not much reward.
As to the remarks bywotan and lazs2 i don't know you, but i think your remarks on the buff pilot are insulting.people pay their money and are entitled to fly what they want, in any way they want.
If you want to play with out buffs i sugest going to the duel arena. There you and all your friends can furball till your eyes fall out.
I don't usualy put up posts like this, and im not really a buff driver,
but i am sick of all the sly, smalmy post that keep cropping up after someone has posted a valid question.
Its attitudes like these that drive new players away..:mad:

dont bother trying to make a sarcastic reply cos i wont be returning to this post.

This is a game most of us enjoy, if you don't goodby!:D

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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2002, 09:56:53 AM »
Hmmmm....

People, in this game, are too worried about instant gratification.

They need to see a kill message, so they do whatever it takes to get it.  Vulch.. HO.. gangbang.. milkrun..

Its having to rely on the game to tell you that you had a good sortie that will be the eventual downfall of AH.  I say make your own fun.

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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2002, 09:59:54 AM »
How could you lump two honorable and satisfying activities like Vulching and HO'ing with boring stuff like gangbanging and milk running?  Heathen.


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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2002, 10:11:21 AM »
I say give more rewards for the buff jocks.  I would love to see more Ar-234's in the air :P  I am a furballer and a buff jock.  If I see a buff over our base droppin hangers i don't whine or cry I say damn he made it here and no one got him.  I killed 139 buffs last tour so I did my fair share of capping bases for the inevitable buff attack.  Killing a B-17 piloted by a guy who knows his toejam is rewarding in its self.  Reward the buff jocks who land them.

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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2002, 10:14:32 AM »
selector et all... I am not saying that fluffers shouldn't have fun... or even that they shouldn't have fun at the expense of other players.   As a fighter only guy I make my living ruining peoples fun..  but I do it one at a time and with about an even chance that it will be me making the smoking hole in the ground.   people can ignore me if I circle around at 20k.

No.. the attention starvedflufffers want to have a huge effect on the gameplay.   they want to have it for no skill and often danger free milkruns.  The amount of skill put into their "missions" compared to the effect they have on gameplay for dozens of people is out of whack.

If they were so important and so noble then why don't they have full crews and realiostic bombing?   Why shouldn't a fluff have to have a crew of 5, 6 or more to be effective?   Why shouldn't they have the realistic result of their bombing and not even know if they got the target or not?   No "outside views" or jumping from one gun to another or guns slaved to each other.

No... I don't care how much or how little fun they are having online but if their fun is at the expense of dozens of guys for so little effort then I don't even want to see em.

I mean... think about it.   262 lovers deserve to have fun too.   Why are we so mean that we don't allow them to have it at everyone elses expense?
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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2002, 10:28:16 AM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
Idiots are ok... nothing wrong with that but they should keep quiet.  lazs


That's pretty ironic coming from a Lazshole who is both the loudest and most idiotic poster this BB has ever seen.  Take you own advice and shut-up Lazshole.  Try for once to come up with more than one simple, stupid, flaming-gay, boring and retarded idea.  

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