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Offline Rude

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« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2002, 11:07:48 AM »
Man....what a potload of crap!

So.... since you pay $15.00/month, you get to whine as much as you want, about whatever you want, in whatever forum you choose, even if it's not the appropriate forum, in a tone which is counter-productive?

If I owned HTC, I would boot the 5-6 bitter, whining, negative customers right on out the door! $15.00/month is not enough to  put up with malcontents.

Don't believe me? I have tenants in our shopping centers and office buildings, that no matter what you do to appease them, they are never happy. Solution? I do not renew their leases and send them off to torment someone else...life is too short. Oh....and they pay me much more than $15.00/month.

There is a big difference between offering constructive criticism and being on some kind of sick mission to highlight every little burp in gameplay with the delivery of a spoiled grade school student.

HT has the patience of Job....for that, some of you should be very grateful.

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« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2002, 12:10:21 PM »
Yes Rude  you can do that ,there always will be something to complain about in some aspects sorry if we sometimes don't buy into things or just go into a leap of faith if we doubt something is very wrong.


Even if we go away there will be someone else what are you going to do pounce them and DICTATE to them what he can or cannot say?

I  know many people posts in these boards to please each other(remember a RAM thread not long ago) they may not neccessarily agree to anything in either party to just to  stir the ant nest they put in idiotics posts.  

Heck Rude you should know better there has to be somewhere along the lines someone that says "the king is naked " like the story went of the king  who  thought he purchased a robe made of invicible thread.

Sorry if WE don't please you and if you think this is a direct attack to everything HTC stands for but if there are some flaws they must be brought forth.  

He has every right to put things here as well as any of the Whine gestapo  or any other paying cutomer sure, you can put your opinions on it but, to attempt to censor him is rather pathetic and insulting.

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« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2002, 12:19:12 PM »
Yes.  You should know Glasses is here to serve a higher purpose, and is not simply crying every time he yells Allied High.

(It cracks me up, the exclaiming use of WE.  As if an oppressed people or something.)

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« Reply #48 on: February 28, 2002, 12:23:39 PM »
I meant it as we as in anyone who said something about AH is wrong  gets brought  to a firing squad. That's why I don't post anything   arguing about X or Y feature anymore .  You just can't do that in these boards.

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« Reply #49 on: February 28, 2002, 12:28:14 PM »
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Originally posted by Rude
Man....what a potload of crap!

So.... since you pay $15.00/month, you get to whine as much as you want, about whatever you want, in whatever forum you choose, even if it's not the appropriate forum, in a tone which is counter-productive?

If I owned HTC, I would boot the 5-6 bitter, whining, negative customers right on out the door! $15.00/month is not enough to  put up with malcontents.

Don't believe me? I have tenants in our shopping centers and office buildings, that no matter what you do to appease them, they are never happy. Solution? I do not renew their leases and send them off to torment someone else...life is too short. Oh....and they pay me much more than $15.00/month.

There is a big difference between offering constructive criticism and being on some kind of sick mission to highlight every little burp in gameplay with the delivery of a spoiled grade school student.

HT has the patience of Job....for that, some of you should be very grateful.


In an online flight sim, the community is 90% of what makes or breaks the game. If HTC would take your example and boot the 5-6 most whining, negative customers, what signals would that send to the rest of the community do you think?

If you reread my post, you'll notice that my $15 a month remark was aimed more at the fact that we all pay $15 a month to be here..that has got to say SOMETHING about how good we think this sim is.

And yeah, I still think that my $15 a month buys me the right to say my honest opinion about various gameplay issues on these forums.

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« Reply #50 on: February 28, 2002, 12:30:31 PM »
Though I doubt they would do so Hortland, I think that is the best thing that could possibly happen to this sim.  Hell, charge $30 again as a surcharge to cover the lost revenue.

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« Reply #51 on: February 28, 2002, 12:31:20 PM »
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That's why I don't post anything   arguing about X or Y feature anymore .  You just can't do that in these boards.


Don't you mean you can't argue points on these boards without any facts, or somebody that really knows the subject WILL post facts and quote sources and make you not post your opinion as fact anymore?

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« Reply #52 on: February 28, 2002, 12:34:06 PM »
Does it buy you the right to say Fegk this POS game when ever you wish?

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« Reply #53 on: February 28, 2002, 12:38:59 PM »
I usually dont read more then a couple of replies in these threads. It always amazes me why folks would waste their time to whine about someone elses "whine".

Then when you look closer its always the same dozen or so that file in one after another. HTC ignores umm why cant they?

If some one whines and no one replies is it still a whine?

but I guess I am just whining about the whine whiners..........

Just remember mandoble never come to the bbs without your pom poms or the fanboyz will make a point of whining about your  phraseology and syntax cluttering the thread no matter what the idea thats contained in it.

I can hear umm coming now one after another each ready to give a  reach around...........

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« Reply #54 on: February 28, 2002, 12:41:07 PM »
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Does it buy you the right to say Fegk this POS game when ever you wish?
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In my opinion, yes and no.

I should have the right to voice my honest opinion (in whatever the appropriate forum is), as long as I dont just sit and swear and curse over the game. So, yes, I think my $15/month buys me the right to say my peace, and no it doesnt buy me the right to call you guys at home and call you names, or just sit here and write obscenities, or stuff like that. But I wasnt aiming at that situation...

(And I'd have to be *really* stupid if that was my opinion of the game and I still payed $ 15 a month to play it.)
« Last Edit: February 28, 2002, 12:43:12 PM by Hortlund »

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« Reply #55 on: February 28, 2002, 12:50:45 PM »
Hortland would that be acceptible on channel 1?

If done mutliple times is there a limit?

If there is a limit where is it ?

If it is spoiling the fun of most of people what should be done about it?

If you have been proved incorect about some subject but continue to beet a dead horse for months on end to the point no one wants to here it anylonger, what should be done?

Basicly it comes down to when some one is constantly pushing the limit/line of exceptible social behavior over an extended period of time what should be done?

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« Reply #56 on: February 28, 2002, 12:51:38 PM »
Yes, a whine unreplied to is still a whine.  Not has bad on the boards (just the waste of a thread), but many of the same we listen to constantly on the main channel regardless that they are most of the time ignored (or most have just tuned out channel 1 entirely).

In fact, they usually only shut up after people start making fun of their tantrum.

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« Reply #57 on: February 28, 2002, 12:57:54 PM »
who has it shut up?

it turns every one of these threads into 100 replies all whines?

Squelchin channel 1 or individuals works. I developed a good habit of .squelch socrates sometimes he aint even in the game.

also theres an ignore feature on these boards.......

but I dunna maybe it feels good I may try

"You unhappy ungrateful whiner you have no respect why dont shut up and quit ah"

nah I didnt get anything out of it......well I leave yas too it

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« Reply #58 on: February 28, 2002, 01:05:43 PM »
You're right, how dare we expect a readable channel one.  It is our fault for not squelching it or having our 64name macro ready.

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« Reply #59 on: February 28, 2002, 01:05:47 PM »
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Hortland would that be acceptible on channel 1?
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No, the purpose of "the whine" as I see it, is to give some kind of feedback to you guys. "This is wrong, can it be changed please", or "Shouldnt this aircraft have 2 more MG's" etc etc. The purpose of it all is to improve gameplay. This is not achieved by whining on ch1. Im only talking about the forums here.
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If done mutliple times is there a limit?

If there is a limit where is it ?
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Yes, since the purpose is to bring some player input or feedback to HTC, once is enough, if it is clear that "the whine" has reached HTC.
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If it is spoiling the fun of most of people what should be done about it?
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A warning followed by either the boot or some mute function seems appropriate to me.
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If you have been proved incorect about some subject but continue to beet a dead horse for months on end to the point no one wants to here it anylonger, what should be done?

Basicly it comes down to when some one is constantly pushing the limit/line of exceptible social behavior over an extended period of time what should be done?

See above. From your reply I'm suspecting that we are talking about two different situations. What I mean with what I have said is that I should be allowed to say my peace on the game I pay for and play. If there is something I feel is wrong, I should be allowed to say it.

I'm not talking about someone whining on ch1 or typing obsceneties there. In fact, I think its pretty safe to say that we all hate those. Nor am I talking about someone on a personal crusade or vendetta against something.