Author Topic: Beyond Visual Range Air Combat dynamics... (Read 3117 times)

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #135 on:** July 31, 2001, 01:45:00 PM »

No Hblair.

Currently we have Dar. There are people that don't want dar. Any change HTC makes will fall somewhere in between by default and does not require a concensus amongst those posting in this thread.

Comprimise involves giving in on something in order to get something. You don't comprimise to make something better. You comprimise to settle for less.

AKDejaVu

DeeZCamp · « **Reply #136 on:** July 31, 2001, 02:15:00 PM »

Uhm.. sorry ..your wrong deja..

heres a stupid anology....

Comprimise is like.. having a friend with you at mcdonalds, and you guys only have 5 bucks. You want a big mac, he wants chicken nuggets.. but you both cant get that because you dont have enuff money.... YOU both like happy meals.. and happy meals are the only thing that will feed the both of ya..for thje amount of money..... so you COMPRIMISE and both share somehting for the common interest of the two of you.

Now apply this to the dumb radar thread and eat macdonlads while flying NOE in a FW190 against an uber N1k

hblair · « **Reply #137 on:** July 31, 2001, 02:19:00 PM »

No.

HT said to me in the MA that he was looking at changes. (ie. changes likely coming down the pike)

So with that in mind, the changes that are being made are what they are probably looking at, wouldn't you think they would devise a plan? Wouldn't you think the plan would be a compromise between much and little dar?

Try to slow down and think more DJ. You are wrong waaay too often now.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #138 on:** July 31, 2001, 02:49:00 PM »

No hblair.

Do you see HTC participating in these discussions? Do you see them trying to fenagle a dar deal here?

This is simply a feature that can be changed. There is no realism in relation to it. There is no physics model to change. There is only suggestions for improving gameplay. There really isn't anything to comprimise on.

I equate this to any other suggestion that HTC implimented. They are suggestions for improvement in gameplay. If HTC likes them, they impliment them (if possible). The word "comprimise" is very inapropriate.

AKDejaVu

DeeZCamp · « **Reply #139 on:** July 31, 2001, 04:38:00 PM »

--"This is simply a feature that can be changed. There is no realism in relation to it. ""There is no physics model to change."" There is only suggestions for improving gameplay. There really isn't anything to comprimise on.

I equate this to any other suggestion that HTC implimented."

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So you think that hitech is wrong for looking into n1k issues? I mean what other n1k issues could they be looking into other than flight? The paint job and details of the plane seem pretty good to me.

I think that the FM is going to also always evolve into somehting that they can create to be more realistic. I am sure that they are always going to look into flight charachteristics and how to improve upon them.

Not just gameplay alone.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #140 on:** July 31, 2001, 04:43:00 PM »

deezcamp, you must be lost. This thread is about dar not flight models. The two are not interchangeable.

AKDejaVu

DeeZCamp · « **Reply #141 on:** July 31, 2001, 04:46:00 PM »

I was replying to your post you POST(ed) to
Hblair.

understand now?

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #142 on:** July 31, 2001, 04:47:00 PM »

wow.. done with you deezcamp. your ignorance is simply incredible.

AKDejaVu

DeeZCamp · « **Reply #143 on:** July 31, 2001, 05:40:00 PM »

uhm.. yeah you are the Ignorant one here love muffin... I think you need to READ up to your OWN post.. and LOOK to how I replied to it.. Obviously your mind is too simplistic to understand that.

Moron...

hblair · « **Reply #144 on:** July 31, 2001, 07:00:00 PM »

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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
The word "comprimise" is very inapropriate.

AKDejaVu

Now you're catching on. Try using the word "compromise", it's an actual word, and it is very appropriate here.

Generally speaking, a change in the radar settings to satisfy most people in the game could very easily be called a compromise. (whether the almighty deja(who?) approves of it or not)

This is all the arguing over that stupid word I'm going to do. Call your nurse in to roll you over and administer your geritol.

Fester' · « **Reply #145 on:** July 31, 2001, 09:25:00 PM »

http://agw.dogfighter.com/agw//Forum3/HTML/022461.html

how one finds a fight without inflight radar from those who know.

oddly they think that inflight dar is bad and had it removed from their wb3 arena due to complaints.

I am only against Inflight radar/darbar.

tower darbar/radar can be left as is or changed... i dont care

Fester' · « **Reply #146 on:** July 31, 2001, 09:27:00 PM »

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Originally posted by citabria:
so how do you guys in WB find the fight without inflight radar and sector bars?
there are those in AH that feel it is impossible and unrealistic to not have inflight awacs and Jstars in a ww2 sim.

"Eh? I find that odd Cit. The fight is better w/o the AH style DarBars, imo. It is generaly easier to sneak up on your prey without a sector warning to give you away, and it makes vectoring for intercepts (with a bit of help from someone in the tower) a nice experience overall."

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Yeager · « **Reply #147 on:** July 31, 2001, 09:43:00 PM »

Perhaps HT wants to keep AH dumbed down some.
So, you know.....the dumber ones can enjoy
AH as well as we few.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #148 on:** August 01, 2001, 01:04:00 AM »

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Generally speaking, a change in the radar settings to satisfy most people in the game could very easily be called a compromise.

It could very easily be called anything you want h(no witty modifications)blair. That doesn't mean it would be right.

Like I said... HTC is not bargaining. They are not waiting for us to reach a consensus. They are simply watching for good ideas to impliment.

They've said in the past they are thinking about changing some aspects of the dar. Not "comprimising".. "changing". They don't maintain that theirs is the end all be all of kneeboards and any change would deter from that. They aren't here arguing to keep dar the way it is. They are just looking for suggestions that would improve things in the arena.

There is no deal working. There is no mutual give and take. There is no comprimising the product.

Done with that hblair. If you are really going to continue on.. I'd have to say it was more to be provoking than anything else.

AKDejaVu

hblair · « **Reply #149 on:** August 01, 2001, 01:10:00 AM »

Does this mean we're buddies again?