Author Topic: Poll: Anti-stick stir control freeze or not?  (Read 3568 times)

Offline Fishu

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Poll: Anti-stick stir control freeze or not?
« on: November 02, 1999, 08:30:00 AM »
I Would like to know what you others think about that how useful Anti-stick stir is in AH? (in its main purpose at the moment)

In my honest opinion I say it should be get rid, at least it does lower enjoyament of game with me when I am afraid to do some basic maneuvers.

Of course it is good to get rid of stick stirring players (with cost of fair players nerves), but I bet there is better ways to prevent stick stirring too...

I don't believe that this anti-stick stir would ever be perfect enough to stay.

Offline Ghosth

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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 1999, 08:37:00 AM »
Personally I'd rather see a severe drag penalty causeing a stall for stick stiring than anything else.

More than X number of control inputs in a 3 sec box????? Would drop your airspeed X amt per movement.

Anyone?

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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 1999, 09:07:00 AM »
I've only seen the message a couple times, when I was doing some real hard moves. I have since learned to move the stick more smoothly. I don't see the message at all now, so my personal opinion is to keep it.

Offline Vermillion

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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 1999, 09:17:00 AM »
Personally, I like it.

I have seen quite a decrease in planes spinning like tops and flopping all over the screen since it was implemented.

Can it be improved? Probably.

But I also think that some people may have to replace very spikey or very low quality equipment. And most importantly adjust their flying styles to be more smooth on the stick.

And No I'm no pointing fingers, and I think it needs a little work to reduce these problems.

But I vote it stays.


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Offline delta

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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 1999, 09:33:00 AM »
FYI,

I have yet to see that message some are talking about.

My SW 3D Pro, several years old apparently  never spikes.

I vote "keep it"

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dawg

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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 1999, 09:43:00 AM »
I've never seem the message. I vote to keep it.

Offline rosco-

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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 1999, 10:03:00 AM »
 I would say keep it, but it does need to be improved. Some say it kicks in too soon, but for me its effectivly turned off. It used to work, but never kicked in unless I actually tried to do so. Now its like its turned off.

Offline fats

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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 1999, 10:19:00 AM »
Haven't had it activate single time w/o me trying to play with it while cruising for alt. That is it has never poped up in combat.


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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 1999, 11:24:00 AM »
I must be a lousy ACM pilot, because I've never seen it either. I did have a 51 wiggle all over the place in front of me last night, so I say keep it.  

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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 1999, 11:38:00 AM »
  The whole point of the thing was to stop stick stirring.

  I too have seen p51,s wiggel all over the place. and every other plane in the set i might add. If it gave me a big edge over some other players, I might want to keep it to. But being on the receiving end of what amounts to a built in cheat. I gotta vote NO.

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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 1999, 12:05:00 PM »
please end it

my sidwinder is 6 months old

and the rudder spikes like mad always has just like all the others i have seen (admitedly only 3 or 4) if i dial in aenough damper to stop i i got slow mo controls

and hight imput x and y axis (read top right or diagnal sitck input) has a good chance to kick it in. seems to me the software could be written to only notice true jerkin i.e. when the controls vary from one side or deflection to the other rather that cuttin in on spikes .(i am not software engineer) bus as it stands give me the stick jerkers over this ill thought out and i guess not tested (on many sidwinders at least) idea .

i had not noticed andy complaints on this board about stick jerkin so why is it there at all?
the flight model should be all the punishment needed (i.e. drag would kill their e)


TURN IT OFF!!!!

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Poll: Anti-stick stir control freeze or not?
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 1999, 12:17:00 PM »
I've had quite a few problems with the S.S.It seems to be less a problem with the lastest update.I have reduced it on my end with joystick tweaking.The amount of problem that remains is fairly perdictable.I look at it as a limitation of aircraft performance.(i.e. not all spit 9 perform the same)
I STRONGLY support HTC's attempt to regulate gameplay.Urge them to continue and expand that effort.

Offline scout

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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 1999, 12:39:00 PM »
Get rid of it.

Much better idea to implement max stick travel speed like WB has.
WB claims to use data from old NACA files for this.

I have a spiky stick, I've seen this 3 times, not since latest upgrade though, where HT implemented his stick damper.

About the stick damper, its effect can readily be seen, just wiggle the stick as fast as you can while watching the aileron.

Actually observing this, it seems to me HT already has implemented a max stick travel speed.

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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 1999, 01:49:00 PM »
I'm for it in principle, but it clearly needs refining. Tends to screw the poor benighted kb rudder driver (snif snif), not like we ain't screwed enough already. I'm gonna break down and build or buy pedals real soon.

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Offline Camel

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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 1999, 05:36:00 PM »
Keep it!

3 year old MS Siderwinder 3D pro, and have never seen the message.