Author Topic: For the Kids (Read 2064 times)

midnight Target · « **on:** March 15, 2002, 10:09:05 AM »

The news magazine "Prime Time" on ABC covered the issue of gay adoption last night. No, not adopting gays, but gay parents adopting children. The entire show was centered around this case let him stay and of course the "coming out" of Rosie O'Donnel (surprise surprise).

Some very compelling points were made in support of allowing gay couples to adopt. Actually only 3 States do not allow gays to adopt; Florida, Mississippi and Utah. The family in question is 2 gay nurses who have adopted 5 HIV positive children and have established a very structured and loving home environement.

There are thousands of children at risk and available for adoption. Should we limit the number of parents willing to take care of them?

midnight Target · « **Reply #1 on:** March 19, 2002, 04:11:55 PM »

I really expected some kneejerking all over this one....why not?

mrfish · « **Reply #2 on:** March 19, 2002, 04:24:29 PM »

i'm actually against gay adoption, but might consider supporting it's legality.

why?

same sex couples don't concern me at all....who the hell cares.

it's just that having adopted parents is meant to simulate having real parents.

however, same sex unions do not produce offspring so paring a child with a same sex couple seems inconsistent.

the reason i might entertain the idea of supporting it is that some 11 yr old retarded black kid (for ex.) isn't going to be swooped up by a public seeking 6month old white babies.

in other words he may get better care and support from a gay couple than none at all.

Sandman · « **Reply #3 on:** March 19, 2002, 04:29:50 PM »

It can't be worse than some of the foster care in this country. If they are willing to adopt, let 'em.

Homosexuality is not catching. Sexual molestation of children is illegal no matter what gender bias you might have. The prisons are chock full of heterosexual pedophiliacs... etc...

If it's a good home, it's a good home. Sexual orientation is irrelevant.

Raubvogel · « **Reply #4 on:** March 19, 2002, 04:38:13 PM »

While I agree that being raised by a same sex couple might be better than foster care/orphanage, I also think that it is probably damaging in other ways. Kids are cruel to each other...how are these children viewed by their peers? What ramifications are there later in this person's life? Same sex parents are a relatively new occurence. It will be years before anyone could really make an honest assessment of the benefits/risks involved.

Sandman · « **Reply #5 on:** March 19, 2002, 04:43:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Raubvogel
While I agree that being raised by a same sex couple might be better than foster care/orphanage, I also think that it is probably damaging in other ways. Kids are cruel to each other...how are these children viewed by their peers? What ramifications are there later in this person's life? Same sex parents are a relatively new occurence. It will be years before anyone could really make an honest assessment of the benefits/risks involved.

Not as long as you think. My mother-in-law is gay. My wife (of 18 years and counting) grew up with it.

Hasn't seemed to hurt her nor our children.

Then again... anecdotal evidence isn't worth much, IMHO.

Wlfgng · « **Reply #6 on:** March 19, 2002, 05:07:22 PM »

kids don't need the excuse of having gay or same-sex parents to taunt each other..

they'll create reasons if needed.

Tac · « **Reply #7 on:** March 19, 2002, 05:15:54 PM »

Im against it.

Monkey see monkey do.

Children see, learn, imititate.

Do you really think a child will have a "choice" at "sexual orientation" if he/she has been raised by a same-sex couple? watching dad1/dad2 french kissing.. or mom1/mom2 ?

Perhaps if they were limited to adopting a child of the opposite sex, the "effect" might be different, but thats just a wild argument.

miko2d · « **Reply #8 on:** March 19, 2002, 05:23:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Tac
Monkey see monkey do.
Children see, learn, imititate.
Do you really think a child will have a "choice" at "sexual orientation" if he/she has been raised by a same-sex couple?...

Not in this case - you are either born with it or not. Pretty-well studied subject. Some people are more or less bisexual and can suppress the "gay" part which gives rumors that it is a matter of "choice".

miko

Kratzer · « **Reply #9 on:** March 19, 2002, 05:24:37 PM »

You think they have a 'choice' when they are raised by a hetero couple? You poor, deluded man. You can't 'make' someone gay.

EDIT: Response to Tac, not miko.

Elfenwolf · « **Reply #10 on:** March 19, 2002, 05:34:23 PM »

95% of all sexual abuse against children is hetrosexual. Instances of gay sexual abuse (outside of the Catholic Church) are rare in comparison. Sorry, Tac, but if you think it's a matter of "Monkey see, monkey do" in order to determine your sexual orientation then I can only hope you were never in the Boy Scouts.

Hobodog · « **Reply #11 on:** March 19, 2002, 09:08:44 PM »

and 95% percent of the population are not studmuffins so whats your point?

midnight Target · « **Reply #12 on:** March 19, 2002, 09:13:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Hobodog
and 95% percent of the population is Normal so whats your point?

huh?

Tac,

You should open the link and check the sociological evidence. Your theory doesn't pan out bud.

Sandman · « **Reply #13 on:** March 19, 2002, 09:58:09 PM »

But Tahgut, doesn't Jesus hate studmuffins?

Elfenwolf · « **Reply #14 on:** March 19, 2002, 11:44:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Hobodog
and 95% percent of the population are not studmuffins so whats your point?

My point is that if a child can have ANY adult in his life who is willing to nuture him then he's better off than having NO adult to offer him guidance, and sexual preference isn't even in the equation regarding fitness as a role model/ parent.

Hobodog, what's up with your use of the word "studmuffin?" And no, I never said 95% of the population in America is straight, what I said was that 95% of sexual assaults against minors are hetrosexual in nature, but actually I believe the ratio of gay people in America to be at 11%, so the vast majority of child molestations in America are hetrosexual in nature, so maybe gay couples raising children isn't the evil you percieve it to be.