Why this game sucks as of late

[hblair]

Lazs, I used to think along the same lines you do. I flew fighters and all that other stuff was a waste of time. About 5-6 months ago I started doing some bomb runs and dropping eggs from fighters. If you try it you might be surprised at how much fun you have. I know I was.

[-towd_]

nothin will be done for gameplay , ar at least nothin ever has. 400 kn buffs are common laser guns on buffs . for what ? so we can have porked bases . yawn. hog c is still plain wrong in guns and lack of a bad flip stall . no use tellin um they just dont respond. other games are commin

[lazs]

dingy... first of all you have no idea if I am in the "minority" or not.   second of all... you are wrong about the complexity of the perk system.   I will bet you that you (or anyone else).........

Can't tell how many perk points (unless it's zero and not even then all the time) that...you just got on that last sortie untill you actually check.   You are full of it.   Every other thread on this board is some new and convoluted way to use the idiotic perk system to reward or punish one behavior or another and every single one of em makes the system even more complex.

Talk about saying what you really mean!!!  Every one of those threads basically says "my style or preference is not being given enough "perk" points"  or, "people need to be punished because they are not flying the way I think they should"   Lie to yourself if you want but not to me.

hblair... sorry tried it numerous times.   The guys I was with (who talked me into it) were all a twitter about how much fun it was but I was bored toejamless.   It is a birth defect.   I was born with no boredom tollerance.  
lazs

[AKDejaVu]

Lazs, he deams you as being part of the minority because you seem to be the only one continually downing the perk system.

You complain of complexity, yet surely even you understand that if you kill an F4u-1C with an F4u-1D, you are going to get more perk points than if you do it in a Tempest.  You also must know that you are going to get even more perk points if you shoot down a Tempest with a c.202.

You want formulas for exact calculations?  Is that the kind of understanding that would cause the confusion to be avoided?  Seems to be a tad bit more than the majority of the arena cares about.

The truth be told.. bottom feeder planes have not seen a drastic reduction in use except for a few of the LW variants.  The worst plane (C.202) has seen twice the action in the 5 days since perk planes have been released than it did the entire week prior.  The SpitV has also seen an increase in usage.  Pretty weird eh?

Most things that aren't supporting arguments are just getting left out or overlooked.  The truth be told, there really isn't enough data to support either way right now.  It may be a good time to take a valium and chill out in front of the tube (pc) for a bit.

AKDejaVu  

[Cobra]

I'm with Deja on this one.

Just let it play out.  

Me thinks some folks just protest too much.

So far, AH has accomodated all styles as far as I can see.

The furballer, the strat-minded, the mission oriented minded, the combined-arms types, the single-plane types, the lone-wolfs.

Its been stated before (alot) but its what we do with the game that makes it fun, not what the game does with us.

Cobra

[Ripsnort]

 

Originally posted by -towd_:
nothin will be done for gameplay , ar at least nothin ever has. 400 kn buffs are common laser guns on buffs . for what ? so we can have porked bases . yawn. hog c is still plain wrong in guns and lack of a bad flip stall . no use tellin um they just dont respond. other games are commin

Oh towd, you're are truly comical!  

(BTW, you seem to LIKE that Chog, you have 137 flights in it in 4 tours!  )

[Westy]

 towd is AcesHigh "Eeyore"

"won't matter"  "it'll never work"  "thank you for noticing me..."


-Westy

[lazs]

deja.. I wholeheartedly agree that there is not enough data to support many arguements but.... Your own data shows that even with the most determined and experienced pilots trying their best in the bottom planes (including the spit5)..... The bottom 10 or so planes are 2-3 times more likely to be killed that the top planes.   You can drastically improve your odds for survival by simple plane choice.   More so than at any other time.    I don't know how this will affect gameplay or plane usage but it seems pretty obvious.   Also, we now have 2 scoring systems that are not in sync.   One used for ranking and one used for perking.   They clash with each other.  


And yes... you can sorta guess how many perkies you will get in a sortie but... you will probly be wrong.   I contend that even the most anal retentive couldn't tell you what he just got on the last sortie without looking it up afterwards.   Now... every style advocate with and ax to grind wants his particular skill rewarded with a new and perk system.
lazs

[Fatty]

Towd won't ever be truly happy until that last second of Armageddon, when he's finally proven right.

[lazs]

oh... deja, maybe it really is a simple system.   Using your examples.... Exactly how many perkies would I get if i shot down a F4UC with a d?  How bout if i had to ditch?   what about a C with a 202?  How bout ditching after killing a tempest and a 1d with a 202?   Take your time.
lazs

[Regurge]

djv, lazs, no guessing needed. Its all right here.

 http://www.hitechcreations.com/105hangar.html#perks

[Fatty]

 

oh... deja, maybe it really is a simple system. Using your examples.... Exactly how many perkies would I get if i shot down a F4UC with a d? How bout if i had to ditch? what about a C with a 202? How bout ditching after killing a tempest and a 1d with a 202? Take your time.

F4u-1c from a 202, 5 points, 6.25 if you land it.  202 from a 1c is .2 points, .25 if you land it.

1d I can't remember the value on, I want to say 20, in which case 2 if you shoot down a 1c in it, 2.5 if you land it.  Using same value, a 1D is worth .5 from a 1C, .6125 if you land it.

Tempest and 1D from a 202 will be 8.75 (50/8 + 50/20), 10.94 if you land it.

The two most underrated planes are the 109s both F4 and G2, rated at 40 each (only 202 is higher)

{Edit - saw tempest and thought typhoon.  Fixed}



[This message has been edited by Fatty (edited 03-14-2001).]

[Ripsnort]

 

Originally posted by Westy:
towd is AcesHigh "Eeyore"

"won't matter"  "it'll never work"  "thank you for noticing me..."


-Westy

SWOM'ing!!!! (Spitting up Water On Monitor)

[715]

Air Warrior used to have one base per country that was unkillable- the ack, hangers, and I think radar could not be taken down.  The reset condition was when all of the rest of that countries fields were taken, yet that one field was always available to launch from and always had local radar.  That might be a possible solution but I recall it was not perfect: the remaining unkillable field was always surrounded by enemy and it was hard to climb out to useful altitude.

715

[lazs]

well there.... How much simpler could it be?  It could be explained in a couple of pages easily.   I'm sure that using a simple guide of a couple of pages and a calculator a person could allmost instantly tell what the plane he was a bout to engage was worth.

So why not make it a little more complex?   We also have another scoring system with "points" and "rank" that is in direct conflict with this one.   A guy flying the best planes will have a 2-3 times better chance of gaining points or rank in one system than the guy flying an inferior plane and gaining the silly perks.
lazs