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Offline hazed-

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CT nothing more than another BS arena!!!
« on: December 18, 2001, 02:27:00 PM »
What the hell is going on?

The CT was as good as an historic arena with realistic matchups which when we had the numbers was fantastic.
The arena suffered because little attention was paid to it!
The map was bugged, had no strategy system in place, no capture and the date or era wasnt changed frequently enough.Its been stuck on the late plane set for weeks.
We knew all this as we played it but I for one still enjoyed it as a nice break from fighting BS 109 vs nik fights.
People that dont care what plane fights what would be just as happy in MA!
Im sorry but i read pyros post on the CT and i felt encouraged that they would give us a good REAL map with a much more involved or difficult capture system!! DAMN IT I wanted as REAL as we could make it not some roadkill what if crap.

I realise maybe HTC want it filled with players to lighten the load on the main servers but turning it into MA no.2 but with limited planeset is totally mad! even stupid!

I logged in saw my choice .......

fly LW and fight f6fs and f4uds on a map ive PLAYED TO DEATH !!!! jesus i couldnt think of anything worse.

I think the reason the CT was failing was purely down to the slow nature of the rolling plane set, coupled with the bugs and lack of capture system.
Also it seemed to me that if theres not 10 guys or more in it noone enters.This isnt because people wouldnt enjoy it, its just no one wants to play in a large map with a few people.I think the only way it will ever fill is if it was the only arena open but that isnt a viable answer.

People say there isnt enough of us that want the historic stuff and that the CT proves it but I say it was the sheer lack of reason to play in there that is killing it.There is no score system to keep track of, not much  choice in tactics besides bombing or jabo to hit fuels  and dogfighting.flak firing at you on take off, no feeling of being in a war just sterile fights.
Well im sorry but as a fan of historic matchups and flying that isnt my idea of a historic type arena.It was almost an afterthought.

Im real dissapointed in the new set up.
Sheesh the MA is furballing BOREDOM and the CT will end up the same.

Give us at least one place where we have real maps with accurate matchups PLEASE
and let us players control the changes in year/era of the wars that were fought on these maps

If HTC think they need american planes to get US people in CT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE use a REAL map of the Pacific theatre and REALISTIC enemy planes! as in IJN.

rant over

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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2001, 02:40:00 PM »
Hazed, CT staff is developing things out there, but they just formed up! Let's give them some time ok?
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2001, 02:42:00 PM »
Check the Combat Theater forum.

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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2001, 02:46:00 PM »
The main problem, hazed, is that when asking 100 different people what the CT should be like, you'll get 100 different answers.  Everyone can get a bit of what they don't want in the MA today... why mess with the CT.

I gave up on it some time ago for a very simple reason: nobody would chose to play AH in a historical manner... they'd have to be forced.  I saw more furballs in the CT than the MA.  Hell.. its first two weeks were nothing but someone parking a CV off of France and endless spitV vs 109 battles with instaspawning.

Historical matchups are worthless in a completely a-historic environment.  There's so much wrong with the way people chose to play in that arena that I'd just rather avoid it all together.

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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2001, 02:52:00 PM »
S!

Next saturday is new CT launch day!!
cu up there!


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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2001, 03:01:00 PM »
Ditto, will be there!

Now if I can just talk hblair into flying that damn "one-oh-nine" of his straight and level long enough for me to get a shot off.......  :D

Hazed, I know what ya mean, and how ya feel, give these guys a chance to get something going......

Offline J_A_B

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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2001, 03:18:00 PM »
Rude, this looks like a good candidate!

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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2001, 04:46:00 PM »
I think it's a good development. Probably won't be perfect right away, but that is a rather tall order. Pyro and co. will continue to hammer away at it, refine it and improve it, just as they do everything else.

Will be interesting to see how the radar setting goes over. There seemed to be a large camp in favor of exactly this setting on the bbs, so I'm sure Pyro is quite interested in how it plays out.
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2001, 04:58:00 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2001, 08:10:00 PM »
Hazed, I'm sorry you don't like the planeset.  I hate to break it to you, but Royal Navy Corsairs and Hellcats fought the Luftwaffe.  The planeset is "realistic".   :)

I'm sorry you don't like the map either.  We don't have any "realistic" maps.  Some of them look like real terrains in clipboard view, but they are shrunken down and lose all tactical and strategic "realism" as a result.  As soon as somebody makes a 1:1 scale map of a WWII combat zone then we will have "realistic" maps.  Until then all we have are fantasy maps.

We will have a new setup this Saturday per Hblair's post in the Combat Theater forum.  I hope you like that one better.   :)

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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2001, 08:14:00 PM »
bah, british navy pilots. Might as well have nuns swearing at the 109's.  :D  ;)

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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2001, 08:15:00 PM »
They did real well against LW too IIRC. This setup sounds ok to me, its pretty close to being historic.

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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2001, 10:22:00 PM »
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Originally posted by J_A_B:
Rude, this looks like a good candidate!

J_A_B

My thought exactly!! It's just in time for Wednesday too!   :)

 
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Offline hazed-

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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2001, 10:58:00 PM »
JAB and MAV suck my fat one since you two are already up each others bellybutton eh?

This is no whine , this is a full blown complaint.

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« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2001, 12:02:00 AM »
S!

If there's dedicated ppl putting efforts for community (CT staff), the least thing we can do to respect their work is atleast check it out. Few sorties wouldn't take too much anyone's time and I bet it's great fun.

On the other hand, I think Hazed is just one of hblair's messangers and this is definitely a heavily baited troll! If it's purpose is to draw attention for CT, it's working wery well.
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cyas there!

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