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Offline Dream

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« on: August 15, 2002, 01:42:29 PM »
Anybody now - turn performance american & german fighters (WW2, of course)?

Offline jonnyb

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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2002, 02:40:27 PM »
Wow, that's a braod question...any particular planes you want compared?

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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2002, 04:03:16 PM »
I was talking to my 73 year old friend. He sead that the Dora could SUSTAINED out turn his pony. But what can you do.

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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2002, 04:30:47 PM »
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I was talking to my 73 year old friend. He sead that the Dora could SUSTAINED out turn his pony. But what can you do.


Er, if your friend was flying Mustangs in 1945, he would have been the only 16 year-old combat fighter pilot in the USAAF.
(73-57=16)

Check your leg for finger prints. ;)

Just an observation......

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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2002, 04:38:15 PM »
Yowzers!  Hoisted by his own petard!
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2002, 04:49:06 PM »
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Yowzers!  Hoisted by his own petard!


This just made my day... that's some funny toejam!

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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2002, 12:54:48 AM »
lying about age to get in the armed forces was not unheard of - for a 15 year old to get away w/ it (assuming he had a year's training) is a bit of a stretch - anyone know who was the youngest ace?

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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2002, 01:33:24 PM »
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But what can you do.


hmm..  any plane. I already see many data - speed, climb, but not turn. May be have some good links?

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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2002, 08:26:51 PM »
Dream, in very very vague generality:

 USN planes turn better than most LW planes

 LW planes turn better than most USAAF planes

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 that's basically all we can give you unless you be more specific.

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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2002, 09:23:21 PM »
Almost impossible to answer for the reasons already stated - but the sharpest turner in the LW planeset is the ME109 F4.

I'm not as sure about the USAAF models, but my observation have been that with low fuel the FM2 can outturn any LW plane. Other sharp-ish turners include the F6F and the P38 (if the pilot understands how to use flaps).

Generally, both Planesets are better used for BnZ than TnB dogfights. If you want to learn turnfighting use British and Japanese fighters.

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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2002, 07:02:01 PM »
off topic a litle jsut please tell me why the typhon turn so well ? is it realy heavy figter and  roll and turn litle to wll not tu much but anyway ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

in AH mean in real life the thing prefered to not turn at all specialy when below 240 mph !

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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2002, 08:38:59 PM »
whine alert!!!!
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2002, 12:48:12 AM »
beter shut up and sort some arguments !!!!

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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2002, 11:23:59 AM »
Does Tiffy turn well? naaaa. Well, maybe better than some 190's and p47's and even 109G10, can't think of any other monoplanes that it out turns.
Although the tiffy is heavy, it has far from the heaviest wingloadings, and a LOT of power to go with it, so that might be something to explain some. And although the wing is thick, thickness is not all bad....
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2002, 11:28:12 AM »
>>Yowzers! Hoisted by his own petard!<<

Oooh! That soundz dirty ;)